China?

[Arlo]

EMbargo! Usually gets the message across. I doubt we have that kind of courage though. Not anymore.

We rely on Chinese products (medical, at that) and a blather embargo? Huh.

[Chalenge]

Name something we depend upon that we cannot make here.

[Arlo]

Name something we depend upon that we cannot make here.

'Cannot' isn't the issue. Currently reliant on another nation because of outsourcing overseas is. It takes time to rebuild production. We are in a pandemic. An embargo to make things harder is not a good move. Nor is war with China. Don't fall prey to blame shifting or purposeful distraction.

[DmonSlyr]

We rely on Chinese products (medical,

Ah yes, let's benefit the Chinese people, its army, and rich billionaires backed by the CCP with low regulated cheap material and poor working conditions instead of our own American workers and private businesses who are highly regulated and over taxed for quality and high pay standards that cannot compete with theives.

It's pathetic to say we rely on China for anything, especially products like medical equipment that are outsourced/not made in America because its too expensive to compete with. It's time to bring the money and jobs back to America.

[Busher]

Name something we depend upon that we cannot make here.

No one said cannot. But logically, do you want to hazard a guess how much time and how much investment it would take to build the factories, hire and train the staff, and not the least of it.... find the money to create this American enterprise? And remember, we live in a free society so who's going to order all this repatriation of manufacturing? The Government? If anything sounds socialist, that does. Lastly, do you the sources of real American Dollars are going to make an investment of this magnitude out of some "buy American" patriotism? They were the ones that took it offshore in the first place.

[Arlo]

This topic serves no edifying purpose.

[Busher]

This topic serves no edifying purpose.

Other than maybe stopping discussion of "the way things should be" or "I wish things were different".

[Chalenge]

Busher, I say that the 'Captain's of Industry' would find the current situation to be filled with opportunity. I think you are all saying 'cannot' even without pronouncing the word.

Personally, I think war would be a very good thing right now. We have plenty of military aged men with no other purpose in life at the moment.

Send it!

[Arlo]

Busher, I say that the 'Captain's of Industry' would find the current situation to be filled with opportunity. I think you are all saying 'cannot' even without pronouncing the word.

Personally, I think war would be a very good thing right now. We have plenty of military aged men with no other purpose in life at the moment.

Send it!

Please. Enlist or re-enlist but don't wish global horror and death on countless Innocents because your sensibilities are inflamed. A logical solutionist you are not.

[guncrasher]

Ah yes, let's benefit the Chinese people, its army, and rich billionaires backed by the CCP with low regulated cheap material and poor working conditions instead of our own American workers and private businesses who are highly regulated and over taxed for quality and high pay standards that cannot compete with theives.

It's pathetic to say we rely on China for anything, especially products like medical equipment that are outsourced/not made in America because its too expensive to compete with. It's time to bring the money and jobs back to America.

does CCP stand for cucuru cucu paloma?  asking for a friend.



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[Chalenge]

Please. Enlist or re-enlist but don't wish global horror and death on countless Innocents because your sensibilities are inflamed. A logical solutionist you are not.

Obviously you missed that we have already been slapped across the face by our task-masters, yet were too pathetic to do anything.

[Arlo]

Obviously you missed that we have already been slapped across the face by our task-masters, yet were too pathetic to do anything.

At what age did you decide to sacrifice those in service to serve your political anger over imagined excuses? If you're still of age and physical ability to serve ... you're spending too much time on this forum and not enough at the recruiter's. Don't be a chickenhawk.

[FESS67]

In the early 1930's a political leader blamed a race for all the problems faced by his country.

In 2020 history repeats.

Neither leader was right and nor were / are the followers.

[1stpar3]

Please. Enlist or re-enlist but don't wish global horror and death on countless Innocents because your sensibilities are inflamed. A logical solutionist you are not.

I dont believe ANY OF US on these boards wish for ANYTHING CLOSE TO THIS! Can we not come to the understanding that things have  to change, if we want to secure the ability to pass this on to the next generation?"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." I understand...Pros and Cons....but why can we not keep these threads from being so Hateful for lack of better term? We ALL want the same outcome, do we not? Even Google Maps gives MULTIPLE travel routes for Driving Maps....does it REALLY MATTER how we get to our destination...as long as we all get there? Argue Time,Traffic, Millage and or Cost all you want to...BUT NO ONE has ABSOLUTE BEST ROUTE, all can be discussed and all have their Unique benefits/detractors! Come on GUYS...we should be better than this We are either ALL WRONG or ALL CORRECT if arguing with the Maps is all we are capable of Love you guys...I am BLESSED to have been in your company, but the way we act here breaks my heart at times!

[Copprhed]

I will ask one question to those who believe that we should make everything here, blah blah blah;Are you willing to lower your wages so that said products are affordable? Otherwise no one will buy them.