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Offline Frodo

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Starlink ISP
« on: July 15, 2020, 08:41:36 PM »
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This is Elon Musk's attempt to provide internet service via low orbit satellites.

Anyone else signed up to test it? I signed up and got a mail wanting my address.

Not guaranteed to get in but hopeful. Depends on your location for the first round I think.

Hopeful it will be as good as advertised.

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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2020, 02:21:32 AM »
Every astronomer or astrophotographer on the planet wants to choke the spit out of Elon Musk as it is.
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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2020, 08:23:51 AM »


Last winter people out here were thinking they were seeing multiple drones over several weeks. Had law enforcement and government agencies fielding multiple calls for swarms of mysterious drones at night. It was Musk's multiple satellites in low orbit being tested.  :devil


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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2020, 08:57:30 AM »
Every astronomer or astrophotographer on the planet wants to choke the spit out of Elon Musk as it is.
Yeah, how dare someone try to make new technological advancements!
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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2020, 05:25:57 PM »
Yeah, how dare someone try to make new technological advancements!

Not so much the issue of technology.  More so the sheer number of satellites in the constellation he needs to put up to give "everyone" internet.  Ground-based research will likely grind to a halt in many respects, simply too many reflective orbs drowning out light from the cosmos.  There's already a need to plan research around the volume of large hunks of metal in orbit now. Adding thousands more just for people to surf porn and share cat videos.....

I did read that there was a push to get them to cover each one in non-reflective paint. I don't know if they actually agreed to it or not. 
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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2020, 05:40:17 PM »
Not so much the issue of technology.  More so the sheer number of satellites in the constellation he needs to put up to give "everyone" internet.  Ground-based research will likely grind to a halt in many respects, simply too many reflective orbs drowning out light from the cosmos.  There's already a need to plan research around the volume of large hunks of metal in orbit now. Adding thousands more just for people to surf porn and share cat videos.....

I did read that there was a push to get them to cover each one in non-reflective paint. I don't know if they actually agreed to it or not.


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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2020, 08:41:03 PM »
Not so much the issue of technology.  More so the sheer number of satellites in the constellation he needs to put up to give "everyone" internet.

God forbid "everyone" can have high speed internet.
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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2020, 10:50:57 PM »
I signed up to receive info, not for home use, but for use at work when I travel to some of the remote areas of ND, and even CO.
Waiting to see if it is mobile, as in, I can take it with me and set it up like the other satellite internet I had a couple years ago. 

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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2020, 12:13:13 AM »
God forbid "everyone" can have high speed internet.

Not quite sure why you're grumping out..... maybe your blood sugar is low? Did I say something to offend you, personally? 

Pluses and minuses to everything.  If you view high speed internet AND living off in the wild as important, well, then this is up your alley. That seems pretty inconsistent, but you're entitled to your opinion.  I don't understand why you think others should be affected by your choices, though.  I know someone who has decades of research in deep sky astronomy, whose work will be severely affected.  But, I guess that doesn't matter. 
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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2020, 05:51:55 AM »
God forbid "everyone" can have high speed internet.

Exactly what I was thinking...

Must have everyone on the " info super highway"

Helps keep everyone " on the same page"

Rather have only stars in the night sky myself

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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2020, 07:06:42 AM »
Not "everyone" in the cities are connected.

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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2020, 01:49:29 PM »
Exactly what I was thinking...

Must have everyone on the " info super highway"

Helps keep everyone " on the same page"

Rather have only stars in the night sky myself

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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2020, 02:17:36 PM »
I'd much rather only have the stars.  I find having to travel increasingly further just to get a clear sky as the years go on.

A couple of points. 

1.  There are million of Farmers and Ranchers and their families living in very rural parts of America that don't access to broadband internet.  Now days that's like living without indoor plumbing.  Yes you can do it, but it would be nice to provide the service to those that want it.

2. Broadband internet is about more than great porn.  Many rural families have home-schooled kids and broadband gives them access to so many more learning resources like tele-classes with large school classrooms allowing realtime interaction with remote instructors.  Also tele-medicine is becoming more and more accepted and allows specialists to consult with patients living in remote areas.  Broadband access opens up more employment opportunities for people living in rural areas for remote work and to not be left behind by the digital economy.

3.  There might come a day when physical mail in no longer delivered or greatly reduced.  Physical wired phone lines may eventually be abandoned.

4.  Satellites don't emit light.  They reflect it.  They are reflecting the light of the sun that is just over the horizon.  That means they only reflect that light for a little while after local sundown depending on the altitude.  Later in the evening you stop seeing satellites  because they are eventually in the Earths shadow.    The lower the satellite, the shorter the period that will be visible because of the angles.  The Starlink and going to be very, very low altitude.  Most serious observing isn't done until 4-6 hours after sunset to let the air temps and turbulence stabilize.  It is almost impossible that Starlink will have any material effect on serious observing.

5.  I am an amateur astronomer.  When you are observing though an instrument, you are observing a very tiny portion of the sky.  Remember that famous deep sky Hubble image of all those thousands of galaxies in the same view?  That was looking at a portion of sky that was about the size of the head of a pencil eraser held out at arms length.  The odds of something flying through that view at just a critical moment is actually fairly small.  You are just as likely to have an airplane fly though your view (and yes, that has happened to me about twice in my lifetime.)  But I'm not going to yell and scream and demand they cease all air travel at night.

6.  They are sensitive to the fear and are experimenting with glare shields. 

   
 

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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2020, 04:48:32 PM »
I signed up to receive info, not for home use, but for use at work when I travel to some of the remote areas of ND, and even CO.
Waiting to see if it is mobile, as in, I can take it with me and set it up like the other satellite internet I had a couple years ago.

The receiver looks very small from what I have seen. Shouldn't be an issue unless they tie you to a physical address.  :cheers:


I live in rural Colorado and love the night sky it fantastic where I live. Hardly any light pollution here and I get spoiled. But like Trips said good internet is going to be even more of a necessity going forward. Also I have been ripped off by these internet companies for a long time. Mostly local owned DSL companies. If I have to pay, I want a good service. Most rural areas your are stuck with a handful of providers and lots of time just one. If Starlink works it looks much cheaper. For now anyway.  :devil


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Re: Starlink ISP
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2020, 06:13:59 PM »
Not quite sure why you're grumping out..... maybe your blood sugar is low? Did I say something to offend you, personally? 

Pluses and minuses to everything.  If you view high speed internet AND living off in the wild as important, well, then this is up your alley. That seems pretty inconsistent, but you're entitled to your opinion.  I don't understand why you think others should be affected by your choices, though.  I know someone who has decades of research in deep sky astronomy, whose work will be severely affected.  But, I guess that doesn't matter.
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