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Offline Shuffler

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #210 on: August 10, 2020, 04:10:43 PM »
Maybe not a challenge, but now it's pretty much just point and click.

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Point and click is what some are wanting. Instant fights. Instant gratification. On top of that they like to buy their experience or purchase things to make them better. More kills a minute, the better. None of them like to die so I am not sure who will be on the death side..... possibly all AI.
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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #211 on: August 10, 2020, 04:15:00 PM »
I think it is a big deal. 
The wonder has been removed from this game.

Is 'wonder' the new term for 'uncertainty?'

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #212 on: August 10, 2020, 04:16:15 PM »
Point and click is what some are wanting. Instant fights. Instant gratification. On top of that they like to buy their experience or purchase things to make them better. More kills a minute, the better. None of them like to die so I am not sure who will be on the death side..... possibly all AI.

If I were HT I'd be considering having the MA be a coop mode where everybody wins, nobody loses, and the guys that die are AI.  Think Destiny in aircraft.  And then a PvP furball arena.

I think it is a big deal. 
The wonder has been removed from this game.

Coogan

I'll take a bit more info for the people who don't want to think about it.  It gets them to react more than they used to in its absence.  Might have something to do with the fact that my main gameplay draw in this game is defending against attacks and getting effective help doing that used to be a lot harder before that change.

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #213 on: August 10, 2020, 04:16:35 PM »
Point and click is what some are wanting. Instant fights. Instant gratification. On top of that they like to buy their experience or purchase things to make them better. More kills a minute, the better. None of them like to die so I am not sure who will be on the death side..... possibly all AI.

Didn't HiTech make a game to coddle to those folks?  Pretty sure he did.
Got air spawns and everything.  Maybe that's more your type of game.

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #214 on: August 10, 2020, 04:20:55 PM »
Didn't HiTech make a game to coddle to those folks?  Pretty sure he did.
Got air spawns and everything.  Maybe that's more your type of game.

Equating clip board info to air spawns is a practice in over-exaggeration.

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« Reply #215 on: August 10, 2020, 04:24:16 PM »
Equating clip board info to air spawns is a practice in over-exaggeration.

At times you can have to much intel.  This is one of them.

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #216 on: August 10, 2020, 04:25:56 PM »
@eddie
Interesting point of view with air to air only. It’s not what I’d want personally for the MA, but I do agree that taking bases can be too easy. At the end of the day, it is all up to HiTech anyway, like you say

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #217 on: August 10, 2020, 04:27:02 PM »
I don't think that game is getting players. Oddly enough they say they don't go there because no one else is there. I guess they have not figured out that no one really wants what they think they want.
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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #218 on: August 10, 2020, 04:28:04 PM »
At times you can have to much intel.  This is one of them.

You equate having more up-to-the-minute and accurate intel on your opponents to 'air spawning.' I recommend playing with a blindfold and using the force to get the maximum enjoyment.  :D

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #219 on: August 10, 2020, 04:28:35 PM »
Point and click is what some are wanting. Instant fights. Instant gratification. On top of that they like to buy their experience or purchase things to make them better. More kills a minute, the better. None of them like to die so I am not sure who will be on the death side..... possibly all AI.

AI is too tough... can't you tone them down

AI shouldn't be allowed to shoot at you... this is BS ... this game is rigged!!!!


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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #220 on: August 10, 2020, 04:33:17 PM »
but I do agree that taking bases can be too easy.

I suspect you can make the base capture harder, but that just means they'll bring a bigger hoard.

They'll obviously not bring a smaller hoard if the base capture is harder.

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #221 on: August 10, 2020, 04:33:40 PM »
Equating clip board info to air spawns is a practice in over-exaggeration.

Holy Shi*t.  You might just be right.
Look at the high fidelity we had back then.



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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #222 on: August 10, 2020, 04:36:14 PM »
Holy Shi*t.  You might just be right.
Look at the high fidelity we had back then.

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Coogan

Over a M U C H longer range than we have, and if I remember right, they could generally tell a big plane from a small plane couldn't they? As well as altitude?

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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #223 on: August 10, 2020, 04:38:10 PM »
Perhaps offering two sizes of dot dar... it was changed in part to the cries of people chasing dots that turned out to be 40k bombers avoiding all contact.... the instant flight path recognition is both good and bad I think ... one you do at least know if it is a feeble cause to chase a plane but on the other hand you have to much time to ready yourself for the fight about tho happen...
I do think the change helped

I do think towns go down way too easy ... now sure the guys have put the time in to learn how but one pass white flag is crazy .... re sup times should be halved ... sure you can resupply but you just have to do more trips.... maybe the C47 can take a larger load to bring things up faster... risk reward thing


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Re: The future of the game: let's help write it
« Reply #224 on: August 10, 2020, 04:43:50 PM »
Over a M U C H longer range than we have, and if I remember right, they could generally tell a big plane from a small plane couldn't they? As well as altitude?

Wiley.

Don't care much for the size of the dots.  It's when you can see when they are turning and which way they are
heading that ruined it for me.

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