Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY

[whiteman]

Nice list.  One of the bigger ones you didn't mention:

free options

Might not quite be exhaustive, but I do believe the above would catch most peoples' gripes.

Wiley.

That should be at the top. As bad as the free option is and as many people is complain about it, it seems to have a massive base that puts up with it.

[Wiley]

That should be at the top. As bad as the free option is and as many people is complain about it, it seems to have a massive base that puts up with it.

They're not "putting up with it" though.  That kind of thing is more what they want/have come to expect from developers.

When this type of game started, IMO the majority of the kind of people that sought it out were people who were in love with aviation and aviation history, with a few gamers mixed in.  These days, the vast majority of the market for something like this is gamers.  Completely different mindsets and expectations.

Wiley.

[TBlayde]

There are tons of reasons.

simple burn out
Some want more engine management
Some want modern graphics
numbers to low for some
"not enough playing the game my way" seems to slant toward dogfighters, everything else isn't needed
maps to small
maps to big
GV's to hard to see
GV's to easy and control the map
hackusations, that have zero merit
lack of new and continuous content
budgets that cant afford a PC that runs AH3
gameplay has had no major changes thrown in
SPIES!!!!
Personal vendettas
aging player base and personal expiration dates

I'm sure more reasons just as stupid as ENY can be added.

Except we don't have multiple forums threads complaining about these things. We do have multiple threads complaining about ENY.

it would seem there's a very small but overly vocal base that's all in favor of keeping ENY.

I will come back when ENY has been addressed and try it out then. The one thing AH has that I haven't seen anywhere else is the perpetual combat environment. All in all if HT is really burned out chances are he's not even paying attention so I am not holding my breath.

[Wiley]

it would seem there's a very small but overly vocal base that's all in favor of keeping ENY.

The inverse is more true, IMO.  It's always the same names saying the same things.  ENY and the 12 hour rule are constantly being harped on.  Constantly.

Constantly.

Wiley.

[scott66]

You still playing the game members are correct... The game is perfect don't don't change a thing
 
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[Arlo]

We do have multiple threads complaining about ENY.

We have more ENY threads because you decided making another one besides the one that was already active would somehow add weight to your argument. And no, ENY isn't the only subject with which someone has tried that. (Side switch time, 2 sided map demand and bomber players who dare to bail out before letting anyone shoot them down are three that come to mind. All of which represented the sky falling.)

[guncrasher]

You still playing the game members are correct... The game is perfect don't don't change a thing
 
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scotty doesn't know...

it's about fun.  did I settle for current state of game? no. but I found different ways to enjoy this game. 

everybody knows i love to fly the pony and everytime i log,  we have eny. so i cry for 1 minute, then up my p47 with the jamaican/canadian flag and go to work.


semp

[Arlo]

then up my p47 with the jamaican/canadian flag and go to work.

There's a T-Bolt with a Jamaican/Canadian flag, mon? Wait, is it one flag on one side and one flag on the other or is it kind of a mixture?

[scott66]

scotty doesn't know...

it's about fun.  did I settle for current state of game? no. but I found different ways to enjoy this game. 

everybody knows i love to fly the pony and everytime i log,  we have eny. so i cry for 1 minute, then up my p47 with the jamaican/canadian flag and go to work.


semp

you know I mostly only fly the brewster or fm2 ENY safe

[whiteman]

You still playing the game members are correct... The game is perfect don't don't change a thing
 
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Eny has a purpose and a place = Don't change a thing

Mind pointing how that conclusion was drawn?

[guncrasher]

There's a T-Bolt with a Jamaican/Canadian flag, mon? Wait, is it one flag on one side and one flag on the other or is it kind of a mixture?

(Image removed from quote.)

yeah 201 squadron, looks almost like the one you posted.

semp

[scott66]

Eny has a purpose and a place = Don't change a thing

Mind pointing how that conclusion was drawn?

sure.. It's called sarcasm

[Hajo]

They're not "putting up with it" though.  That kind of thing is more what they want/have come to expect from developers.

When this type of game started, IMO the majority of the kind of people that sought it out were people who were in love with aviation and aviation history, with a few gamers mixed in.  These days, the vast majority of the market for something like this is gamers.  Completely different mindsets and expectations.

Wiley.

Spot on, well said Wiley.

[RichardDarkwood]

All in all if HT is really burned out chances are he's not even paying attention so I am not holding my breath.

Careful what you wish for.

[Shuffler]

Except we don't have multiple forums threads complaining about these things. We do have multiple threads complaining about ENY.

it would seem there's a very small but overly vocal base that's all in favor of keeping ENY.

I will come back when ENY has been addressed and try it out then. The one thing AH has that I haven't seen anywhere else is the perpetual combat environment. All in all if HT is really burned out chances are he's not even paying attention so I am not holding my breath.

The reason for the multiple threads is the folks who do not read forum rules.