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Offline RotBaron

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #315 on: December 17, 2020, 10:02:13 PM »
We’veseen many good tuna boats come and go unfortunately.

We’ve also seen many bad owners/captains come and go too.

The Pacific Voyager, the Ocean Odyssey are just two examples of awesome tuna boat owners and almost always sold out or chartered with no open spots.
They're casting their bait over there, see?

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #316 on: December 18, 2020, 03:02:36 PM »
"The Boston Massacre was a deadly riot that occurred on March 5, 1770, on King Street in Boston. "

You must be a foreigner.

No born and bred in the US... history is written by the victors... the Boston
Massacre was the one of the events that began the revolution... ur revisionists
theories are hogwash
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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #317 on: December 18, 2020, 03:04:35 PM »
Your context needs severe work.

Really, what was Jefferson trying to say when he wrote that?
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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #318 on: December 18, 2020, 03:14:59 PM »
No born and bred in the US... history is written by the victors... the Boston
Massacre was the one of the events that began the revolution... ur revisionists
theories are hogwash
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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #319 on: December 18, 2020, 03:23:23 PM »
Really, what was Jefferson trying to say when he wrote that?
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Jefferson opposed vehemently the Alien and Sedition Laws of 1798 which granted the President enormous powers to restrict the activities of supporters of the French Revolution in the United States. Jefferson kept his authorship of the opposing Kentucky Resolutions a secret until 1821.

Amid mounting tensions, Federalists accused Republicans of being in league with France against their own country’s government. Writing in June 1798 in the Gazette of the United States, Alexander Hamilton called the Jeffersonians “more Frenchmen than Americans” and claimed that they were prepared “to immolate the independence and welfare of their country at the shrine of France.”

Fears of an imminent French invasion led the Adams administration to begin war preparations and pass a new land tax to pay for them.

With fears of enemy spies infiltrating American society, the Federalist majority in Congress passed four new laws in June and July 1798, collectively known as the Alien and Sedition Acts.

Even as the bitter debates between the two fledgling political parties were being played out in rival newspapers and other publications, the new law outlawed any “false, scandalous and malicious writing” against Congress or the president, and made it illegal to conspire “to oppose any measure or measures of the government.”

In the end, widespread anger over the Alien and Sedition Acts fueled Jefferson’s victory over Adams in the bitterly contested 1800 presidential election, and their passage is widely considered to be one of the biggest mistakes of Adams’ presidency.

By 1802, all of the Alien and Sedition Acts had been repealed or expired, save for the Alien Enemies Act, which has stayed on the books. In 1918, Congress amended the act to include women.

Suppose that over the course of a few months, a small band of armed militants has coordinated strategies to distribute firearms and take over the nation's capital by force through a website on the clandestine "deep web." All indications show that the group is dead serious in its intentions, but they're thwarted by an FBI investigation that leads to arrests. While sharing information and discussing ideas -- even distasteful ones -- is generally protected as free speech, the FBI believes this crosses the line. The alleged ringleaders of the plot are charged with "seditious conspiracy" (simply referred to as "sedition"), a federal crime related to treason and other anti-government offenses.

Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. The following provides an overview of this particular crime against the government, with historical references.

The federal law against seditious conspiracy can be found in Title 18 of the U.S. Code (which includes treason, rebellion, and similar offenses), specifically 18 U.S.C. § 2384. According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States:

To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to level war against them;
To oppose by force the authority of the United States government; to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States; or
To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.

Many of the more high-profile seditious conspiracy cases won by the U.S. government involve Puerto Rican nationalists plotting to overthrow the U.S. and assert their independence. The first was Pedro Albizu Campos, who (along with nine accomplices) was convicted of sedition in 1937 and jailed for 10 years for attempting to overthrow the government. He and others had been active members of the Nationalist Party, which (according the U.S. prosecutors) was aimed at independence through force. Other, similar cases involving Puerto Rican nationalists followed.

More recently, in 2010, nine members of a militia group called "the Hutaree" spanning Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana were charged with seditious conspiracy on suspicion of planning an armed conflict against federal, state, and local law enforcement. They were acquitted by a judge in 2012, however, due to insufficient evidence.

https://www.history.com/topics/early-us/alien-and-sedition-acts

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sedition.html#:~:text=%C2%A7%202384.,jurisdiction%20of%20the%20United%20States%3A&text=To%20oppose%20by%20force%20the,of%20the%20United%20States%3B%20or

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #320 on: December 19, 2020, 07:11:12 AM »
Your context needs severe work.

Read it for urself Arlo... the quote below is quoted from Monticello's papers
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"Societies exist under three forms sufficiently distinguishable. 1. Without government, as among our Indians. 2. Under governments wherein the will of every one has a just influence, as is the case in England in a slight degree, and in our states in a great one. 3. Under governments of force: as is the case in all other monarchies and in most of the other republics. To have an idea of the curse of existence under these last, they must be seen. It is a government of wolves over sheep. It is a problem, not clear in my mind, that the 1st. condition is not the best. But I believe it to be inconsistent with any great degree of population. The second state has a great deal of good in it. The mass of mankind under that enjoys a precious degree of liberty and happiness. It has it’s evils too: the principal of which is the turbulence to which it is subject. But weigh this against the oppressions of monarchy, and it becomes nothing. Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. Even this evil is productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and nourishes a general attention to the public affairs. I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.1 Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Paris, January 30, 17872
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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #321 on: December 19, 2020, 08:32:11 AM »
So your stance is that it's ok for you to be a seditionist because Jefferson said it was ok (though he thought it wise to hide his authorship)? Your history stops short of the Civil War? That's conveniently stupid.  :old:

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #322 on: December 19, 2020, 09:59:36 AM »
Odd how a request to throughly investigate a clearly shady election devolved into civil war speak

Both sides should be ok with an open investigation of every aspect of possible voter fraud regardless of how long it would take and with whoever is then determined to be the victor.

Until that happens half the country will not be satisfied

Question should be if sleepy creepy corrupt joe actually had a record voter turn out his side should be screaming loudest for this audit

Since they are doing the exact opposite only strengthens peoples doubts of the reported results.

I still hope the audit is performed but would not bet on it  given what has been said and done by the repubs since election day as most of them want orange man out as bad as the left

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #323 on: December 19, 2020, 10:08:01 AM »
Yeah, a four year audit! No, twelve! No, twenty! Never mind that there's no actual basis and it's crazy talk.  :old:

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #324 on: December 19, 2020, 10:23:07 AM »
Yeah, a four year audit! No, twelve! No, twenty! Never mind that there's no actual basis and it's crazy talk.  :old:

Isn' t that what nancy and the toad have done with the russian horse poop for the last 4 years?

To bad the repubs dont have the same drive and media support to now do the same to the left

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #325 on: December 19, 2020, 10:45:24 AM »
Isn' t that what nancy and the toad have done with the russian horse poop for the last 4 years?

To bad the repubs dont have the same drive and media support to now do the same to the left

Eagler

Work with your state's election board to make what ever changes you want in your state.  The time to do that is before elections not after you decided you don't like the outcome.

Unless you can prove IN COURT, not on cable TV or Twitter, that there has be large scale fraud that materially effected the outcome of the election, then THIS election is over.  60 court cases.  Nada. Zip. zilch.


Biden won.   Deal with it.

All the rest of the horse dung about biased media and Venezuelan voting machines if just a bunch  psychological thumb-sucking by pouting Trumpkins who can't yet accept their orange pig-god lost. 


Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #326 on: December 19, 2020, 11:28:16 AM »
Is Texas n Mexico?
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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #327 on: December 19, 2020, 11:38:41 AM »
Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #328 on: December 19, 2020, 11:59:09 AM »
So many here seem to be in love with embracing new Marxist and socialist USA.

Never thought I’d see anything close to it  :headscratch:

And an administration that will now be in bed with China than ever, even after they gave us a disease and world pandemic.

Bow to China, your new master!

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Re: God bless Texas
« Reply #329 on: December 19, 2020, 12:24:24 PM »
So many here seem to be in love with embracing new Marxist and socialist USA.


That is a false canard you like to tell yourself to sooth your bruised ego after your orange pig-god was defeated when you were soooo sure of victory.

Being anti-Trump does not make you a Marxist.  Voting for a Democrat does not make you a Socialist.  I'm not saying there are no Marxists or Socialists in this country.  There are, just like there are members of the KKK.

But the majority of Americans voted against Trump in this election I suspect not because they are all Communists, but because they didn't want to watch Trump and his red-hat/ Brown-shirt MAGA thugs turn this country into a Putin-esque authoritarian state.

 


   
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