Jan 06

[FESS67]

I am not a Trump supporter however the video of those ballots being pulled from under the tables is interesting and I would have thought worthy of further investigation at least.

That does not of course prove voter fraud occurred however an explanation would be useful. 

Here are my theories:

• Illegal vote rigging activity
• legal votes just happened to be stored there and they were counted within the rules
• Trump orchestrated stunt to prove voter fraud and give him something to parade in front of the media
• Biden orchestrated  stunt to wind Trump and Rudi up   

Whatever it was I have not seen an explanation of it.  CptTrips, perhaps you can tell us what was going on in that video?

[CptTrips]

Whatever it was I have not seen an explanation of it.  CptTrips, perhaps you can tell us what was going on in that video?

I didn't see the link.  If it was posted by DemonSlayer, I generally don't bother with his nut-job links.

Is it this one?

The video, which was shot in Fulton County, Georgia, was aired by One America News Network -- which described it as showing “potential ballot stuffing” -- and was presented as evidence during a December 3 Georgia Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing.

But Frances Watson, the chief investigator in the office of Georgia’s secretary of state, testified on December 5 that “our investigation and review of the entire security footage revealed that there were no mystery ballots that were brought in from an unknown location and hidden under tables as had been reported by some.”

The ballots in question were packed up because “the employees thought that they were done for the night and were closing up and ready to leave. When the counting continued into later into the night, those boxes were opened so that the ballots inside could then be counted.”

Watson also said the investigation found that “observers and media were not asked to leave. They simply left on their own when they saw one group of workers... also leave.”

https://factcheck.afp.com/georgia-video-ballots-suitcases-does-not-show-election-fraud

Hours worth of security footage was examined the the investigator for GA SOC.  No evidence of foul play was found.

The GA SOC is a Republican, BTW.

[Gman]

The legal system requires that a viable case be presented. If all that is being put forth is Rudy Giuliani, feelings and spurious complaints then of course it doesn't make the sniff test for even being considered a case. I don't think right wing suicide terrorist bombers are going to impact the normal procedure of law.

Where/when did not so smart bombs being clacked off by "right wing suicide bombers" come up? If you want to bring up "fantasy", this statement of yours makes it pretty obvious you're the one dreaming up nonsense.

Everything all of you (Trips/Busher/Arlo) are saying MAY be correct, what I continue to point out, again as an outside observer not living in the USA, is that it looks like those on the right FEEL that the Supreme court has let them down, based on exactly what I said.  Again, I've not said that this idea is true or the "facts", what I've said and will continue to say is that many, many of those on the right side feel exactly how I've said they do regarding the election, the Supreme Court, etc.  And, based on those feelings, what happens now is my concern and point.

[FESS67]

I didn't see the link.  If it was posted by DemonSlayer, I generally don't bother with his nut-job links.

Is it this one?

https://factcheck.afp.com/georgia-video-ballots-suitcases-does-not-show-election-fraud

Hours worth of security footage was examined the the investigator for GA SOC.  No evidence of foul play was found.

The GA SOC is a Republican, BTW.

Yeah that's the video.  So according to the page that was on the explanation given was....The ballots in question were packed up because “the employees thought that they were done for the night and were closing up and ready to leave. When the counting continued into later into the night, those boxes were opened so that the ballots inside could then be counted.”

Then that should be easy to prove, simply show the video footage of those ballots being put away under the tables prior to then being retrieved.  I assume that is what happened because the judge found no evidence to continue the case but it sure would be nice to see that footage which would disprove the fraud element much more than a court order as all that has done is lead to more theories of collusion at the highest levels.

[CptTrips]

Yeah that's the video.  So according to the page that was on the explanation given was....The ballots in question were packed up because “the employees thought that they were done for the night and were closing up and ready to leave. When the counting continued into later into the night, those boxes were opened so that the ballots inside could then be counted.”

Then that should be easy to prove, simply show the video footage of those ballots being put away under the tables prior to then being retrieved.  I assume that is what happened because the judge found no evidence to continue the case but it sure would be nice to see that footage which would disprove the fraud element much more than a court order as all that has done is lead to more theories of collusion at the highest levels.

You'll have to take that up with the investigator assigned by the Republican SOC.  The information was investigated, hours of video reviewed, and no wrong doing was found, and the Republican GA SOC agreed and certified the election.

I know the video was publicly streamed that whole time.  I don't know if all the video archives has been made public.

[CptTrips]

Everything all of you (Trips/Busher/Arlo) are saying MAY be correct, what I continue to point out, again as an outside observer not living in the USA, is that it looks like those on the right FEEL that the Supreme court has let them down, based on exactly what I said.

I don't give a flying fk!

You think  the Dems didn't "feel" like the SC let them down in Bush v. Gore?

Here is a news flash for you, everyone that loses in the SC is going to "feel" let down.  Get the FK over it and change your diapers!

So that justifies a bunch of right-wing extremist military personnel to threaten to abandon their oaths and side with the terrorists? 

There real problem is the Trumpkins are freaking out because they have been so saturated with right-wing propaganda that they are just now realizing that reality is not going to comply.

They were told Trump was going to win an unbelievable landslide. 
They were told the states would never certify the votes.
They were told the electoral college was going to reverse everything.
They were told that dripping Rudy was going to overturn everything in federal court.
They were told  just wait until it gets to the SC.  Our buds we packed in there will tilt our way.

As each of those lies have come crashing down no longer able to be believed, Trumpkins have been talking more and more crazy.  Their world view is crumbling and they are starting to talk like suicide-by-cop nutters.


Too many of them are  whack-job, seditious, traitorous, domestic terrorist wannabees.  I'm sure we'll have to drop a few of them before this is over.  They'll probably be Proud Boys.  Or maybe DemonSlayer.
 
And frankly it won't be a loss, as long as no actual humans are harmed in collateral damage.

[NatCigg]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/09/jocelyn-benson-state-conduct-most-sweeping-post-vote-audits-history/3863919001/

 

[DmonSlyr]

The legal system requires that a viable case be presented. If all that is being put forth is Rudy Giuliani, feelings and spurious complaints then of course it doesn't make the sniff test for even being considered a case. I don't think right wing suicide terrorist bombers are going to impact the normal procedure of law.

You act like courts have never been wrong or been paid off, or threatened. That's why this should be taken to a non partisan military tribunal. Now we learn that Stacey Abrams sister is a judge residing over an election case in GA? We have plenty of cases, testimonials, affidavits, and statistical analysis. You had none in 2016. All you had was the media. "Its a big nothing burger" Van Jones. 2.5 years of Mueller and 80 million later. All you had was inside agents. Democrats shat on us for 4 years every day. Would never give us the benefit on anything good that Trump did. I know you hate Trump but the fact that you think a state or federal court is the "answer", where one judge can make a decision for millions, and throw away a case without even reading it. This is the very essence of why I don't believe them or you after what you and the clown show have put us through the last 5 years.

 We have had republican politicians in train crashes, we have had republican politicians shot playing baseball. We have had Republican politicians beat up in their yard. Police precincts burned. Court houses burned. You dont even care about that, while calling "right wingers" terrorist. Dont give me your pathetic propaganda BS calling criminals "right wing suicide bombers". This is war talk propaganda labeling. This is what pisses me off the most about you people, so pathetic.

This is why we can't have civil political discussions. You never give us any benefit or agreement on anything. Only criticism and ridicule every day. You find fault in every Golly-geened policy that Trump is involved with. Your false labeling and group labeling is cowardly.

Democrats clearly cheated during this election. No question about it. Justice will prevail.

[DmonSlyr]

I am not a Trump supporter however the video of those ballots being pulled from under the tables is interesting and I would have thought worthy of further investigation at least.

That does not of course prove voter fraud occurred however an explanation would be useful. 

Here are my theories:

• Illegal vote rigging activity
• legal votes just happened to be stored there and they were counted within the rules
• Trump orchestrated stunt to prove voter fraud and give him something to parade in front of the media
• Biden orchestrated  stunt to wind Trump and Rudi up   

Whatever it was I have not seen an explanation of it.  CptTrips, perhaps you can tell us what was going on in that video?

Here is GA full testimony on election irregularities. Fast forward to 33 min. Please watch her entire segment and make your own informed decision.


Republicans in GA have made deals with Democrats and Dominion behind closed doors. As Gman puts it, they have betrayed all of us.

[CptTrips]

Republicans in GA have made deals with Democrats and Dominion behind closed doors. As Gman puts it, they have betrayed all of us.

You're such a completely ridiculous buffoon.

We're laughing at.

[FESS67]

Here is GA full testimony on election irregularities. Fast forward to 33 min. Please watch her entire segment and make your own informed decision.


Republicans in GA have made deals with Democrats and Dominion behind closed doors. As Gman puts it, they have betrayed all of us.

So there appears to be an irregularity in that they should not have counted without observers as the correct process is to have observers present.  That I get and that should not have happened.

However, the fraud allegation has still not been proven.  In her testimony she stated that they saw the blonde lady put the table there but did not see how the ballots got under the table, they still had to review the video fully to determine that so that question needs to be answered but they are the same type of box as all the other ballots are in so could have been put there during the period where workers were tidying up at the end of the night.

In her statement she said that approx 18,000 votes could have been scanned during that time period and that that was enough to impact the election result.  However in that county the votes cast were 380,000 Biden, 140,000 Trump.  So assuming that every single one of the votes scanned in that 2 hour period was for Biden that would still leave Trump with a massive deficit.

I am not sure if they are able to determine who those ballots were in favour of however it would so stupid to put all Biden votes through in that time period as it would be so obvious that something odd was going on.

So sure, they should not have done what they did however that does not prove fraud.

[DmonSlyr]

So there appears to be an irregularity in that they should not have counted without observers as the correct process is to have observers present.  That I get and that should not have happened.

However, the fraud allegation has still not been proven.  In her testimony she stated that they saw the blonde lady put the table there but did not see how the ballots got under the table, they still had to review the video fully to determine that so that question needs to be answered but they are the same type of box as all the other ballots are in so could have been put there during the period where workers were tidying up at the end of the night.

In her statement she said that approx 18,000 votes could have been scanned during that time period and that that was enough to impact the election result.  However in that county the votes cast were 380,000 Biden, 140,000 Trump.  So assuming that every single one of the votes scanned in that 2 hour period was for Biden that would still leave Trump with a massive deficit.

I am not sure if they are able to determine who those ballots were in favour of however it would so stupid to put all Biden votes through in that time period as it would be so obvious that something odd was going on.

So sure, they should not have done what they did however that does not prove fraud.

To poke holes in your analysis:

1. Everything you see those people doing in that video is illegal.
2. She told the majority of counters to leave because they were closing. She did not close.... illegal.
3. She pulled ballots from under a table that she staged there, with ballots in a container that is not how ballots are boxed. Illegal.
4. She and the couple who didn't leave counted those votes  over and over again, after telling people votes would no longer be counted. Illegal.
5. This happened late at night with no supervision. Illegal.
6. Only total state vote count matters, not county vote. Biden only "won" GA by a very small margin. Therefore those votes, along with Dominion voting machines fraud with statistical analysis, 5.5 more hours of testimony (that i listened to btw). Gaining 400K votes in a couple of hours all for Biden. Without a doubt prove GA was stolen in the middle of the night.

Saying these people didn't commit malpractice and malfeasance knowingly in this video is clearly  going against what you know to be true with your own eyes.

[zack1234]

Who are these right wing extreamists?

Even Don the Lemon has difficulty showing evidence.

BLM and the white spoilt i am rich Antifa shower are the mechanisms trying to force a false narrative on individuals who are too busy paying their bills.

I believe a man called Spencer is a right wing fanatic who no one took any notice off until the so called liberal media gave him air time...well done Don Lemon

No one heard of Adolf until he got into the mainstream media, funny that.

[NatCigg]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/09/jocelyn-benson-state-conduct-most-sweeping-post-vote-audits-history/3863919001/

Nobody wants to talk about it? The state is doing a comprehensive audit of votes, not complete but aclose.

Also, the legislature is investigating reports that the courts chose to ignore.

See trips , nothing to be afraid of. Just the truth, that's all we want.

[NatCigg]

[Im] such a completely ridiculous buffoon.

We're [cringing] at.

Fixed