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Offline RotBaron

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Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« on: April 22, 2021, 04:03:19 PM »
Do any of you know what happened to Ink’s Ki-84 skin?

You may recall it was brown with skull and bones.

Or at least it looked brown on my screen...internet searches show other Ki-84’s with skull and bones but they are dark green.
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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2021, 04:06:00 PM »
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,401803.msg5324633.html#msg5324633

Might that be it?

edit: Yep it is, I should have just read the original post greebo made.

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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2021, 04:16:03 PM »
Redacted.  Lack of sleep.  Sorry.  COMPLETELY misread that one.

Plus my daughter's pup just died in a tragic, senseless manner, so I'm clearly edgy. 

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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2021, 04:18:37 PM »
No need to be a smart ass. 

He asked about it in the game and I couldn't remember so I suggested he ask in here.   I [wrongly] told him he would be treated kindly and answered cordially.   Silly me.

i was talking to myself

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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2021, 05:44:41 PM »
No need to be a smart ass. 

He asked about it in the game and I couldn't remember so I suggested he ask in here.   I [wrongly] told him he would be treated kindly and answered cordially.   Silly me.

Gave you plenty of time to come back and reread what I posted and say oops. Wouldn’t expect an apology out of you like I would give had I done that anyways. Next time leave it between the people in the conversation to hash out issues.

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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2021, 06:32:49 PM »
I stand corrected.    :salute
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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2021, 07:36:59 PM »
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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2021, 07:40:21 PM »
Greebo adopted INK's skin. That's why it's gone.

Thanks to Lyric1 for finding me the info for this skin, which is an adoption of a 2011 skin originally created by Ink.

This Ki-84 was part of the 58th Shinbu Tai, one of many Kamikaze units created in 1945 to defend the Japanese home islands from US carrier groups. The 58th were formed from pilots out of the Akeno Flying Training Division and attacked the US invasion fleet off Okinawa in late May.

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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2021, 04:22:31 AM »
Do any of you know what happened to Ink’s Ki-84 skin?

You may recall it was brown with skull and bones.

Or at least it looked brown on my screen...internet searches show other Ki-84’s with skull and bones but they are dark green.

I adopted Ink's skin as AH3's subsequent changes to skin lighting files have made it (and many other AH2-era skins) look far too shiny.
 
Ultimately any modeller, profile artist or skinner is usually working off the same B&W photo of the plane in question and it comes down to a question of interpretation. You can see the photo I and presumably Ink used here. This shows an aircraft with a very dark upper surface camouflage colour, far darker than the olive brown colour that the factories painted Ki-84s in 1945. So my guess is that this was one of the earlier bare metal Ki-84s with a field-applied coat of whatever IJAAF or IJNAF colour was locally available at the time. IIRC I went with a dark Mitsubishi factory green.

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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2021, 03:06:42 PM »
Thank you for the answers.

It basically sounds like the brown paint could still be used because it was applied to Ki-84’s but it wasn’t nearly as prevalent as the olive green, is that correct?

One of the things I really liked with Ink’s skin is the wear that shows on the plane. The vast majority (if not all?) of our skins are as if they are brand new and in their first flight.
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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2021, 02:32:43 AM »
The first Ki-84s came out of the factory in natural metal finish, with only the red national markings and a black anti-glare panel painted on. Many of these later received field-applied solid or mottled upper camouflage schemes. This was most likely done in whatever shade of green was available, but it could also have been brown or some combination of green and brown. In late 1944 the IJAAF mandated that the factories apply a scheme to all newly-produced aircraft of khaki brown upper and light grey lower surfaces. This was most likely to prevent brand new NMF aircraft being easily seen on the ground by marauding American aircraft.

The B&W photo of this aircraft shows a very dark colour was used, darker than the late war factory brown. There is no known shade of Japanese brown paint that dark so I went with dark green for my skin. As for the paint wear the photo shows some missing paint on the wing root which I duplicated, but very little on the fuselage. Some of my other Ki-84 skins have a lot more paint chipping, I just go by whatever the photo shows.

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Re: Ink’s Ki-84 skin
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2021, 03:07:43 PM »
The first Ki-84s came out of the factory in natural metal finish, with only the red national markings and a black anti-glare panel painted on. Many of these later received field-applied solid or mottled upper camouflage schemes. This was most likely done in whatever shade of green was available, but it could also have been brown or some combination of green and brown. In late 1944 the IJAAF mandated that the factories apply a scheme to all newly-produced aircraft of khaki brown upper and light grey lower surfaces. This was most likely to prevent brand new NMF aircraft being easily seen on the ground by marauding American aircraft.

The B&W photo of this aircraft shows a very dark colour was used, darker than the late war factory brown. There is no known shade of Japanese brown paint that dark so I went with dark green for my skin. As for the paint wear the photo shows some missing paint on the wing root which I duplicated, but very little on the fuselage. Some of my other Ki-84 skins have a lot more paint chipping, I just go by whatever the photo shows.

Thank you for the reply and information. I’ll have to take a look at more of your skins. You’ve done tremendous work! I’ve used a lot of your skins. 

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