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Offline FTJR

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updated 49FG/7S
« on: May 27, 2021, 03:02:46 AM »
As per the title, updating the skin and hopefully getting the bare metal a bit more acceptable. Despite the material files set to complete black I cant prevent the white on the tail from washing out in the harsh sunlight.

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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2021, 05:20:12 AM »
Wow.  That looks amazing.  Hopefully you'll get the washed out white tail fixed.  :aok


Also, I can't be the only one seeing an very nice influx of white tails.  :x
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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2021, 08:17:39 AM »
The metal work is looking quite good.

For the white and yellow paint, you want to make those areas a little more shiny than the other painted parts on the P and S maps. That will focus the washed out part to a smaller area. I use RGB 66/66/66 for white on the P ans S maps.

Also you need to use a fairly dark color for each on the diffuse map - especially the white. On my recent Pacific P-39's and P-40's, I've been using RGB 166/166/163 for white and RGB 191/148/16 for yellow.
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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2021, 09:17:45 AM »
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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2021, 11:36:27 AM »
The metal looks really good FTJR, a big improvement.

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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2021, 12:52:08 PM »
That looks great!

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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2021, 02:26:14 PM »
Looking good man.   Big improvements continue.  Keep it up.

If you dial back the wringroot fasteners with a reduced opacity they'll turn into circles.
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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2021, 11:46:56 PM »
The metal work is looking quite good.

For the white and yellow paint, you want to make those areas a little more shiny than the other painted parts on the P and S maps. That will focus the washed out part to a smaller area. I use RGB 66/66/66 for white on the P ans S maps.

Also you need to use a fairly dark color for each on the diffuse map - especially the white. On my recent Pacific P-39's and P-40's, I've been using RGB 166/166/163 for white and RGB 191/148/16 for yellow.

Great stuff,  thanks for the tip, i'll do that.

Looking good man.   Big improvements continue.  Keep it up.

If you dial back the wringroot fasteners with a reduced opacity they'll turn into circles.

Understood thanks.


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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2021, 12:42:04 AM »
Suggestions applied

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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2021, 12:46:27 AM »
That looks much better, but the horizontal and vertical stabilizer looks a touch too grey.  Appears light grey to me anyway.  Rudder and elevator looks good though. :aok
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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2021, 01:20:34 AM »
Looks good.  White is a real bear.   See if Devil can email you a patch from his P-39 to try and match up to see how it behaves for you.

The metal has really come along great.   

Don't get discouraged by the critiques.   I've been through the gauntlet for quite awhile now and I understand it can make you want to bash your keyboard into the monitor.   This is marathon not a sprint.   Steady as she goes.

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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2021, 01:22:44 AM »
Also, one trick Oboe taught me is to dial back the opacity a tad with the paint.   You may need a mask under it if you go too far, but a few percent here or there will make it look painted on and reduce that flare you get with white and yellow. 
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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2021, 02:37:16 AM »
Looks good.  White is a real bear.   See if Devil can email you a patch from his P-39 to try and match up to see how it behaves for you.

The metal has really come along great.   

Don't get discouraged by the critiques.   I've been through the gauntlet for quite awhile now and I understand it can make you want to bash your keyboard into the monitor.   This is marathon not a sprint.   Steady as she goes.

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Not discouraged, yet  :lol  thanks man.



That looks much better, but the horizontal and vertical stabilizer looks a touch too grey.  Appears light grey to me anyway.  Rudder and elevator looks good though. :aok

Yeah, I agree, though I've applied Devils suggestions, it looks like I have to tweak a few of the other layers which are on the diffuse map,  as Vraciu mentioned white is a real bear to deal with.
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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2021, 03:13:24 AM »
Backed off the "Devils White" (tm) :lol as much as I dared.. Opinons please.

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Re: updated 49FG/7S
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2021, 04:19:03 AM »
Rudder and elevator look even better.  Hor and Vert stabilizers look better, but, and I hate to say it, the white on them appears to be a slighty "off white" now.  You are much closer though, maybe a touch whiter might do it?  I'm going to guess that the rudder/elevator is using the same values as the hor and vert stabilizers?  I mean, are they separate or is it all one package? If only you could get what I see on the rudder/elevator onto the hor and vert stabilizers, I think you'd be set.  :aok
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