New Poster, old flier

[DmonSlyr]

one more thing about false perception is me.  I've flown mostly a Pony for years,  before then it was the spitfire 8, 9 or the zeke.  those are the planes i remember mostly.   fugitive pulled my kills by plane.  I still remember when he said it blew my mind that the plane you were best in is the il2 by far.

I didn't know that either.


semp

That's cool and all, but this is not a false perception. I am looking at weekends mostly because it's when most people have time to play. I will have some week days in there. I know you will contradict any data I post regardless but to people who actually care about increasing action it will shed some light and prove inefficiencies.

I agree with you on this, I just don't care as much as you after all these years,  if I get a couple good fights I'm happy.

Might suggest you compile numbers of players in flight before dusk and during.  Pretty obvious watching darbars shrink because folks can't see toejam.

I try, only because I want air combat more than anything. When I log in mid afternoon and see no fighter action, 45 players with 2 tiny green dars with no cons to shoot at because the map is ridiculous. I just dont know what else to do but to speak up.

[guncrasher]

That's cool and all, but this is not a false perception. I am looking at weekends mostly because it's when most people have time to play. I will have some week days in there. I know you will contradict any data I post regardless but to people who actually care about increasing action it will shed some light and prove inefficiencies.

so what you are saying is people should log in on more on weekends and kills more.  sorry I pay 15 bucks to play this game.  if you want to pay me to play more on weekends, I am willing to listen.

semp

[guncrasher]

one word of advise, right now there's 19 players.  I started playing in 1996, once I was part of a mission over the island of hawaii, in aw.  I had about 60 players with me.  all together we had over 500 planes trying to take hawaii, we never did take it.  we took some bases.  after about 6 hours of flying and taking bases with 2 countries trying to get the other down to 1, we didnt made the target.   at the end I think about 12 players were on, from about 1500 or 2000 a few hours before.

next day, bastages from the other country players also had a plan, we were down to 5 bases.

was fun, another country joined with us to take the other down.  then next day the joined and took us down.  lots of fun

but from a billion players flying that day, we ended up with 12 players playing late at night.

semp

[DmonSlyr]

so what you are saying is people should log in on more on weekends and kills more.  sorry I pay 15 bucks to play this game.  if you want to pay me to play more on weekends, I am willing to listen.

semp

So what you are saying is that fish are blue?

How is 12 or 19 players on a good thing? It should be alteast 80 but moreso 100 during off hours.

Stop being ridiculous Semp.

[SPKmes]

so what you are saying is people should log in on more on weekends and kills more.  sorry I pay 15 bucks to play this game.  if you want to pay me to play more on weekends, I am willing to listen.

semp

No he is looking more at Maps and hours of deemed play time...(kills shows some form of action that will get peoples attention...not non flashing single scattered dar bars) ...not so much players on....it just gives a better idea during times when there is closer to a normal take over rate.... There are maps that stagnate and are just too big...all that happens is bomber runs and tower sitters waiting for a base to flash...(I am one of these types) ... I like to get into it ...I can't be bothered chasing bombers.... and I can't be bothered flying for an age to find that there is somebody home...but they won't up... They just get in the 88...shoot it down you say.... sure.. but that doesn't put them in a plane..
I am one of those who has the pleasure of having a game time in the low number time period...at those times...if a map is won and the next one is 1) large...or 2) one of the unlike maps.... it is single digits for a few hours.... When the map changes and it a generally like map (there are always haters) many will flow back in... now flow is a little gratuitous but if I am on with more than 20...it is a fine night for me...that is, so long as there is a majority of in flight as opposed to tower sitters.... the latter happens alot ...perhaps this is why the numbers stay low after a map change... all the sitters are gone....
either way... there are definitely maps that impede enthusiasm....

[RotBaron]

one word of advise, right now there's 19 players.  I started playing in 1996, once I was part of a mission over the island of hawaii, in aw.  I had about 60 players with me.  all together we had over 500 planes trying to take hawaii, we never did take it.  we took some bases.  after about 6 hours of flying and taking bases with 2 countries trying to get the other down to 1, we didnt made the target.   at the end I think about 12 players were on, from about 1500 or 2000 a few hours before.

next day, bastages from the other country players also had a plan, we were down to 5 bases.

was fun, another country joined with us to take the other down.  then next day the joined and took us down.  lots of fun

but from a billion players flying that day, we ended up with 12 players playing late at night.

semp

Not sure where you put the “advise” (think you meant advice), I don’t see any in that post.

You are talking about dial-up internet days where you had to pay by the hour/minutes used...so of course when that scenario/mission was done those players logged out.

[RotBaron]

I don’t see any of your points, all I see is you contradicting DmonSlyr at every turn.

And I believe all of this originates simply from things he posted back last year when the bbs rules were suspended. This topic has absolutely zero to do with that.

[DmonSlyr]

I don’t see any of your points, all I see is you contradicting DmonSlyr at every turn.

And I believe all of this originates simply from things he posted back last year when the bbs rules were suspended. This topic has absolutely zero to do with that.

Nah, he's always been like that. I dont mind a devils advocate. But they need to make since with rational arguments against mine for me to be engaging, and not make up things I said which aren't what I am implying like his previous post. I've been noticing that a lot lately on other debates. Unfortunately, there is counter for practically everything now, which is why we are where we are today.

No he is looking more at Maps and hours of deemed play time...(kills shows some form of action that will get peoples attention...not non flashing single scattered dar bars) ...not so much players on....it just gives a better idea during times when there is closer to a normal take over rate.... There are maps that stagnate and are just too big...all that happens is bomber runs and tower sitters waiting for a base to flash...(I am one of these types) ... I like to get into it ...I can't be bothered chasing bombers.... and I can't be bothered flying for an age to find that there is somebody home...but they won't up... They just get in the 88...shoot it down you say.... sure.. but that doesn't put them in a plane..
I am one of those who has the pleasure of having a game time in the low number time period...at those times...if a map is won and the next one is 1) large...or 2) one of the unlike maps.... it is single digits for a few hours.... When the map changes and it a generally like map (there are always haters) many will flow back in... now flow is a little gratuitous but if I am on with more than 20...it is a fine night for me...that is, so long as there is a majority of in flight as opposed to tower sitters.... the latter happens alot ...perhaps this is why the numbers stay low after a map change... all the sitters are gone....
either way... there are definitely maps that impede enthusiasm....

Thank you for your input Tongs. You hit the nail on the head with what I am trying to get across.

[guncrasher]

Not sure where you put the “advise” (think you meant advice), I don’t see any in that post.

You are talking about dial-up internet days where you had to pay by the hour/minutes used...so of course when that scenario/mission was done those players logged out.

actually i used aol to connect which was unlimited.  when aol decided to start charging by the minute to play AW, then we switched to gamestorm which was unlimited AW for 10 or 12 bucks a month. so it was around 20 or 25 bucks a month total.  if I remember correctly.

it was late at night when everybody would log off then we would have about 10 to 20 players.

basically same as in AH, hundreds during the day, a dozen or 2 late at night.


semp

[TequilaChaser]

. Unfortunately, there is counter for practically everything now, which is why we are where we are today.

You Think?  LOL

Tongs, nice follow up.....

Edit:  I will add that I am 100% positive HTC has more data than you are able to look at Vio, I'll leave it there....

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TC

[guncrasher]

So what you are saying is that fish are blue?

How is 12 or 19 players on a good thing? It should be alteast 80 but moreso 100 during off hours.

Stop being ridiculous Semp.

19 players is a good thing if they're having fun.  and we had never had 80 or 100 consistently that I recall late at night.


but going back to your claim.  how you gonna obtain the data by the hour/day?  just asking because I just tried to check how many kills I got last night and couldnt find a way.  do you have a program?  will you check if the same map is up and how would you know what time it changes? 


semp

[TequilaChaser]

I recall a time in AW FR, when less than 9 were online, yet we all still had a blast

But you have to align the numbers, the map size and the decade..

[DmonSlyr]

You Think?  LOL

Tongs, nice follow up.....

Edit:  I will add that I am 100% positive HTC has more data than you are able to look at Vio, I'll leave it there....

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TC

He might have more data, but it doesn't appear he's using that data to his advantage with regards to measuring # fluctuations in the MA with regards to action on the map, and why there is a lack there of a for most of the day on certain maps relative to others. And I think it has a big impact on #s overall playing the game. Just sayin.

[TequilaChaser]

He might have more data, but it doesn't appear he's using that data to his advantage with regards to measuring # fluctuations in the MA with regards to action on the map, and why there is a lack there of a for most of the day on certain maps relative to others. And I think it has a big impact on #s overall playing the game. Just sayin.

As soon as someone starts paying some other, then that other will go around the world beating others into submission to subscribe and play

What else do you want done?  A complete reboot of the game so people play when you want

As far as games like this, we are going on the 5th decade...  think about that for a few minutes

Everything moves up and down as time passes

I am not here posting to agree/ disagree/ or debate...

TC

[SPKmes]

Sorry for my ramblings before...i did not proof read what I had typed and was rushing as the guys were turning up for work.... I guess you did get the gist of it... but it was a bit sloppy.

19 players is a good thing if they're having fun.  and we had never had 80 or 100 consistently that I recall late at night.


but going back to your claim.  how you gonna obtain the data by the hour/day?  just asking because I just tried to check how many kills I got last night and couldn't find a way.  do you have a program?  will you check if the same map is up and how would you know what time it changes? 


semp

Yeah we did ... it started to slow down around 2014/15 ... somewhere around there...and then the new version came out and those that couldn't or didn't want to get a newer PC had to leave.... On good nights with the low numbers it can be a huge amount of fun...but it is falling away....Especially when the numbers are skewed by AFK tower sitters...
Certain maps do affect this...this and.... let's not get into it please but it is relevant when you have a total of 20 on the roster and ENY is working... you for one semp would be annoyed that you couldn't fly your PonyD ...for me the only effect it has is I lose out on targets to shoot or get shot at by