Carrier group guns can't hit B24s because targeting all whacked

[wrench]

Watch this film, it explains why our CV guns couldn't touch these B24s and they easily sank our CV.

BowlMA terrain near Knights field A89 on 11/15/2021 around 1323 hrs CDT.

And before you know it all idiots start calling me an idiot, watch the film!

[The Fugitive]

Just looks like the B24 got caught in a "host lost connection" issue thats all.

[wrench]

This happens all the time and the bombers appear normal in real time. Just that guns can't hit them.

I will capture and post a screen capture film and AH film of same event to show them side by side if possible. Maybe tomorrow.

[guncrasher]

I have gotten disco'd in middle of a billion red cons, running trying to get away.  shut down computer came back to being 1 sector away all by myself, climbing.

has happened many times, it sucks but it happens.


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[wrench]

I have gotten disco'd in middle of a billion red cons, running trying to get away.  shut down computer came back to being 1 sector away all by myself, climbing.

has happened many times, it sucks but it happens.


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Nobody was disco'd, watched the bombers fly away. Only damage to bombers I could see was from our fighters.

This is why I hate posting things in here, tired of the, "nothings wrong here move along" attitude.

[wrench]

I have gotten disco'd in middle of a billion red cons, running trying to get away.  shut down computer came back to being 1 sector away all by myself, climbing.

has happened many times, it sucks but it happens.


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Alright here's the complete film from right after the carrier was sunk.

Read my comments in text buffer about what happened.

At no time do you see a message that any of the bombers were shot down because bombers were flying away.

[wrench]

And...if you look at statistics for the B24 pilot for this tour you will see he has 0 discos.

Roach5O6's General Stats for Melee Tour 262

End Sortie Type
Landed    22
Discos      0
Bails        1
Ditches    3
Captured  0
Deaths    10

[guncrasher]

And...if you look at statistics for the B24 pilot for this tour you will see he has 0 discos.

Roach5O6's General Stats for Melee Tour 262

End Sortie Type
Landed    22
Discos      0
Bails        1
Ditches    3
Captured  0
Deaths    10

I have zero discos too.  yet my game crashes at least once a day, usually when I talk too much on box.  I am able to relog and jump back into my plane.  like I said before game has crashed when in middle of fight, when I rejoined I am in the middle of nowhere alone, sometimes I wonder why I didnt get shot down.

you cannot tell if a person got discoed or disconnected or game crashed by just looking at your film.  perhaps hitech can tell, but I know I cant.

just giving a possible explanation.  one that i am familiar with.


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[wrench]

I watched the B24s fly away actively turning and diving back to land. That is not the behavior of a disco'ing player.

Thanks for you input, but, when you made your disco comment, YOU HAD NOT EVEN LOOKED AT THE FILM!!!!!!

[guncrasher]

I dont have to look at the film. what you dont know is that I sink a lot of cv's. and I have watched films of other people sinking cv's.  now I can sink a cv from 5k altitude, drop and kill it easily, just years of doing it.  have even sank a couple by flying noe and from from 800, pass thru all the ships and appear to be undamaged.  but that is not really what happened.  I get hit all the time but not enough to show damage.

there could be a thousand reasons for it. roach has been around for a while, he knows how to sink the cv.  the fact that fighters caused damaged as you stated is a good sign.  cv ack on the other hand is not 100% accurate. like i said I can drop bombs on a cv pass the full length and not show any damage.  doesnt mean I didnt get hit.

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[The Fugitive]

I've watched both films and neither of them does it show the buffs flying away. In fact the buffs disappear at the 36-39 second mark of the films never to be seen again.

My guess is he lost his connection, the film only shows data received and as the other player had discoed there is nothing to see on the film. Your view may have showed him flying away as the game will keep the plane in flight for a certain amount of time so that the player can reconnect and jump back into his plane, which he seems to have done seeing he has no discos.

Its just a disconnect which shows in the film as the plane jumps around for 30 seconds and then disappears.

[wrench]

The film does not show what was seen by myself and other players. That's why I posted it. The ships guns seemed unable to target the bombers as we saw them.

The bombers were diving turning back to their field to land. At no point did they appear visually to act as if disconnecting. They flew back to a base and landed. I watched them from the gun flying away.

I have observed many times how bombers appear when disconnecting. 

This film is posted for HiTech to investigate what's going on that prevents carrier group guns from targeting the enemy planes.

Look I don't post stupid comments on other peoples posts. What qualifies you to analyze film data????

[1stpar3]

The film does not show what was seen by myself and other players. That's why I posted it. The ships guns seemed unable to target the bombers as we saw them.

The bombers were diving turning back to their field to land. At no point did they appear visually to act as if disconnecting. They flew back to a base and landed. I watched them from the gun flying away.

I have observed many times how bombers appear when disconnecting. 

This film is posted for HiTech to investigate what's going on that prevents carrier group guns from targeting the enemy planes.

Look I don't post stupid comments on other peoples posts. What qualifies you to analyze film data????

Easy now!  If you didnt want others opinions, maybe just EMAIL instead of posting to forums?   Fugitive is RIGHT-ON, as this has been my conclusion as well. I lose connection quite a lot, and this is EXACTLY how my Squadies see my Plane act!  It wasnt a personal attack, Sir!

[wrench]

That is not what we saw, it is what was recorded on the AH film.

There is some reason the film is vastly different from what we saw.

As far as I know, HiTech is the only one with tools to analyze the data in the films.

[wrench]

Found dmp file from same time period as film.

Not sure why dmp file was saved, might be from crash to desktop that sometimes occurs when gunner on cv.