Self defense?

[RotBaron]

Not only was he cleaning up the mess that rioters created, treating injured and putting out fires.

He shot only in self defence, rioters and a pedo, ((Rosenbaum) If you have 11 counts of sexual misconduct with a child and get killed rioting, I'm pretty 'meh' about it.)

The Media tried to demonize him... He beat the media and not many can say that.

The guy's a farking hero!

 

[Chris79]

All I can say is this, what sort of retarded mother drives her son to a riot. Also, two dead dirt bags and another who will be jerking off with their non dominant had for the rest of their life does not break my heart.

[Brooke]

do I think he's innocent, no, i do not.

Semp, I'm not meaning to be combative, just honestly curious what you see in Rittenhouse's firing of his weapon that is not self defense.

[Slade]

Sometimes it seems we live in two Americas:

1. Confederacy 2.0.

2. American Democratic progressive states for the betterment of humanity.

[Brooke]

Sometimes it seems we live in two Americas:

1. Confederacy 2.0.

2. American Democratic progressive states for the betterment of humanity.

Or, as seen by the other half of the American population:

1.  Leftist Communist/Socialist States of Amerika
2.  American conservative states for the betterment of humanity.

[Brooke]

Sometimes it seems we live in two Americas:

1. Confederacy 2.0.

2. American Democratic progressive states for the betterment of humanity.

Or, as seen by the other half of the American population:

1.  Leftist Communist/Socialist States of Amerika
2.  American conservative states for the betterment of humanity.

Here's the thing, though.

If the US followed the Constitution, and the Federal Government wasn't an overpowering monolith, striving to control all states, both of those views could peacefully coexist just fine.  Whatever your end of the political spectrum, just go live in the state that suits you.

[Slade]

Sometimes it seems we live in two Americas:

I am not saying one is better than the other BTW.  Just an observation.  I am not perfect at articulation so don't try to read into it that I am this or that or prefer one over the other.

I will add that if one is highly polarized by certain non-fact-based media, it could lead to an entirely different take.  In this, I wish current generations could experience the likes of Walter Cronkite.  He was absolutely dedicated to reporting the truth and news.  Note making the news or selling an agenda.

[Busher]

Or, as seen by the other half of the American population:

1.  Leftist Communist/Socialist States of Amerika
2.  American conservative states for the betterment of humanity.

However one sees their position, no one seems to recognize or maybe even care that the nation becomes more divided every day. People won't even consider talking to one another, and the idea of compromise seems to make most people want to vomit.
On the other hand, think about how much talk you hear about bringing about the solution through force.

[decoy]

All I can say is this, what sort of retarded mother drives her son to a riot. Also, two dead dirt bags and another who will be jerking off with their non dominant had for the rest of their life does not break my heart.

I honestly thought that this horse would have been beaten to a pulp by now, but dude, you hit my buttons.  Seriously, no sane individual ever does anything that puts their child at imminent risk of harm.  I'm not talking teaching them to ride a bicycle or a horse.  But yeah, an 18YO at a riot with a sporter carbine (the official name for an 'assault rifle') is just beyond sanity.

As for the victims, well, they were some mothers' sons, but those mothers did a crappy job raising them.  As for 'Mr. Non-Dominant,' if you point a gun and the other guy doesn't run, it's time to pull.

Thanks for a breath of fresh air.

[Brooke]

I will add that if one is highly polarized by certain non-fact-based media,

All media, on every side, these days is highly partisan and full of propaganda.  If anyone thinks the media he reads/watches is true, and the other side is fake, he is a media patsy.

[rabbidrabbit]

I honestly thought that this horse would have been beaten to a pulp by now, but dude, you hit my buttons.  Seriously, no sane individual ever does anything that puts their child at imminent risk of harm.  I'm not talking teaching them to ride a bicycle or a horse.  But yeah, an 18YO at a riot with a sporter carbine (the official name for an 'assault rifle') is just beyond sanity.

As for the victims, well, they were some mothers' sons, but those mothers did a crappy job raising them.  As for 'Mr. Non-Dominant,' if you point a gun and the other guy doesn't run, it's time to pull.

Thanks for a breath of fresh air.

Except that his mother did not drive him there.  She thought he went to work.  The narrative of she drove him there is a media talking point and not based on the known facts.

[guncrasher]

Semp, I'm not meaning to be combative, just honestly curious what you see in Rittenhouse's firing of his weapon that is not self defense.

because he put himself in a situation where he had to use his rifle.  seen videos of I dont know i could be 20 or 200 or a million of other guys who also said they were there to protect property.  none of them walked into a middle of a riot.  they didnt fired a single shot, neither did the police.

he walked a way to a place that he shouldnt have been, then claimed self defense.  he shouldnt have been in the middle of it.  violence was around, he knew it, that's why he brought a rifle.  had they gone after him when he was by the dealership, that would have been self defense. but he didnt, he for whatever reason walked into the middle of a place that he shouldnt have been in and created a situation where he had to use his rifle.


semp

[guncrasher]

All media, on every side, these days is highly partisan and full of propaganda.  If anyone thinks the media he reads/watches is true, and the other side is fake, he is a media patsy.

this is a true point.  too many lazy people who let others think for them.  there is no us against them, there's only us.  and trust me if we split this country in 1/2, nobody wins. we all lose.


semp

[Brooke]

However one sees their position, no one seems to recognize or maybe even care that the nation becomes more divided every day.

The media, the partisan croniest machinery (tech, education, big business, orgs, institutions, etc.), and the partisans on each side are in an ideological war.  They are aggressively ramping up the war, pulling the nation into the two opposing camps.

If people allow the Federal government and large institutions to be used as tools of force in this conflict, we could be in for a mortal fight.

Better would be to keep the ideals of our founding:  freedom, liberty, and minimal federal government with much power reserved to the states.  Supplemented by a culture that is OK with different states doing things their own way.

[Chris79]

this is a true point.  too many lazy people who let others think for them.  there is no us against them, there's only us.  and trust me if we split this country in 1/2, nobody wins. we all lose.


semp

Someone always wins