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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #285 on: December 01, 2021, 02:10:18 PM »
Woah, good to see you Anarchy. Been a while. You ever gonna come back to the game?

I agree with you on most parts. Yes, he shouldn't have been there. Yes he was too young, albeit we send kids to war just a year older. I do believe he was set up, that's why he ended up alone. I do believe he did have some kind of training. I do believe the police knew he was there and when Kyle turned himself in, they accepted him rather than tackle him to the ground and instantly arrest him. I think they knew what was up too. The FBI had drones there in the perfect spot. Too bad they weren't there in person to actually help to stop the rioting. Too bad no law enforcement did anything to stop the rioting.That's typical of our grand FBI these days. They can sure go raid an old man's home at 6am though and feel badass. Unfortunately we have no comms from either side to understand what was being said. The only thing I disagree with is being sad over this loss of life. These men were complete scumbags and child sexual abusers, as I find most Antifa are. They took it upon themselves to attack a man with a rifle and got what they deserved. They got what they had coming for them, and if Kyle didn't shoot, the other FELON who illegally had a gun would have killed him, and he would have gotten away with it because that's how Fkd up the left is in this country. No one cares about Gaige, even though he should be on trial for attempted murder with an illegal weapon. Funny how the media just shrugs that off. Because they are they are being paid off by the same people pushing antifa and violent anarchy in the city. It's a huge racket.

What’s up man! How’re you doing? No plans to come back yet, but I’ve been wanting to get at least one month in sometime soon, but I’ve been busy lately so I haven’t put anything into action.

When it comes to the police/FBI knowing Rittenhouse personally would be there? I dunno if they did, but they did know about the armed civilians yeah. I never even saw Rittenhouse’s arrest on camera (if it is) so I don’t know how that appeared. Either way I do agree that the officials did a piss poor job overall and should have swept the entire town from the protestors to the armed civilians, perhaps they thought a curfew was enough to get that to happen?

I understand how you aren’t sad about those guys dying but even if someone “deserved” it, it’s not something I would be really praise. Death is something I’m tired of dealing with personally and I have learned how significant it is recently. I didn’t know about Huber until recently, but Rosenbaum, the guy that initially chased Rittenhouse and was shot first, I’m pretty certain that dude was suicidal. I actually don’t think he was armed. I learned that he had recently been discharged from a mental hospital. You can see him on film yelling into an armed man “shoot me! Shoot me!” And when Rittenhouse runs down the street for no reason we can tell, this guy chases him for no reason at full speed with an obvious aggressive stance, he was trying to get shot. I really think that guy was suicidal and trying to die, that’s just not good. I won’t even get started about why Huber thought it was a good idea to attack someone holding an AR15 with a skateboard.

I don’t know exactly about Huber’s criminal history if true (just saying because I haven’t read up yet, don’t have the energy now lol), but it still is not ideal for someone to die for that. Even that Nikolas Cruz who murdered 17 people at Marjorie Stoneman Douglass 4 years ago, I know this may sound strange to some, but I can’t, I just can’t be on a jury and sentence him to sway without some feeling telling me how F’ed up it is to do that. Many people don’t take the moral high ground and just want to kill as revenge or sense of justice, this does not work.

When it comes to antifa I literally know so little about them, just another group soon to be gone in the next generations, just like Proud Boys or whoever else. I do agree that MSM gets carried away with their agenda but both the left and right are a mess. I don’t care for neither.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #286 on: December 01, 2021, 02:11:46 PM »
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #287 on: December 01, 2021, 02:39:44 PM »
China and Russia are the enemy :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Its what happens when the masses have no religion,country or work ethic

Jane Fonda still not apologised yet for supporting the Vietnamese communists, the writing was on the wall then.

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #288 on: December 01, 2021, 02:45:58 PM »
Me and some friends from various age groups are waiting for the day she dies to pay a visit to her grave with our piss

Reminds me of the urinal cakes that the Navy used... had a  picture of Jane Fonda.... aka Hanoi Jane.....rofl
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #289 on: December 01, 2021, 03:00:16 PM »
What’s up man! How’re you doing? No plans to come back yet, but I’ve been wanting to get at least one month in sometime soon, but I’ve been busy lately so I haven’t put anything into action.

When it comes to the police/FBI knowing Rittenhouse personally would be there? I dunno if they did, but they did know about the armed civilians yeah. I never even saw Rittenhouse’s arrest on camera (if it is) so I don’t know how that appeared. Either way I do agree that the officials did a piss poor job overall and should have swept the entire town from the protestors to the armed civilians, perhaps they thought a curfew was enough to get that to happen?

I understand how you aren’t sad about those guys dying but even if someone “deserved” it, it’s not something I would be really praise. Death is something I’m tired of dealing with personally and I have learned how significant it is recently. I didn’t know about Huber until recently, but Rosenbaum, the guy that initially chased Rittenhouse and was shot first, I’m pretty certain that dude was suicidal. I actually don’t think he was armed. I learned that he had recently been discharged from a mental hospital. You can see him on film yelling into an armed man “shoot me! Shoot me!” And when Rittenhouse runs down the street for no reason we can tell, this guy chases him for no reason at full speed with an obvious aggressive stance, he was trying to get shot. I really think that guy was suicidal and trying to die, that’s just not good. I won’t even get started about why Huber thought it was a good idea to attack someone holding an AR15 with a skateboard.

I don’t know exactly about Huber’s criminal history if true (just saying because I haven’t read up yet, don’t have the energy now lol), but it still is not ideal for someone to die for that. Even that Nikolas Cruz who murdered 17 people at Marjorie Stoneman Douglass 4 years ago, I know this may sound strange to some, but I can’t, I just can’t be on a jury and sentence him to sway without some feeling telling me how F’ed up it is to do that. Many people don’t take the moral high ground and just want to kill as revenge or sense of justice, this does not work.

When it comes to antifa I literally know so little about them, just another group soon to be gone in the next generations, just like Proud Boys or whoever else. I do agree that MSM gets carried away with their agenda but both the left and right are a mess. I don’t care for neither.

Yeah, Rittenhouse walked right up to the police, hands up, turned himself in, almost like those police knew him. I do find it strange that the FBI had a drone right on target. Not sure what they knew about Rittenhouse or the other guys. Could have been a pure coincidence, but who knows what the FBI knows. Shoddy that the prosecution would use unclear video evidence. Not sure if FBIs fault or prosecutions fault.

The left uses crazy mentally ill people to do their bidding. So I'm sure that guy was paid and probably off his meds. Not sure exactly who he was with and why he was there. He probably did want to die. He probably was mentally crazy. If he would have killed Rittenhouse. You'd never hear about him again, he was probably being used by the people who run antifa out there.

I personally have no sympathy for evil people who abuse children, then come attack us as fascist nazis and be shown a hero by the MSM. I can't stand em. They get what's coming to them. Sorry about your own personal death experiences, but don't get them lined in the same capacity as these scumbags. They were responsible for their own actions.

I've looked deep into Nicolas Cruz. You know he was about to receive 800k inheritance from his dead father? You know he was also mentally ill, and had lots of therapy and councilors? You know the family that was watching him, the new dad was in intelligence? The kid was used to push a sick agenda. Strange how none of the therapy worked ehh? I bet he was in the hands of very sick people. Where did he get the gun? Why only shoot one random classroom? How do you change clothes in the bathroom, go talk to a girl, then walk right out easily like nothing happened? You got the crew that came out after with their social justice thing, they all looked like pawns being used. Just so many strange things about Cruz that the media doesn't tell you about. You always have to look deeper into these people rather than just follow the outside narrative.

Again, in all of these events, we never get to see any communications with anyone. I always find that interesting.

Antifa is funded by people like George Soros thru NGOs so it doesn't directly tie to him and his minions. We have yet to see comms from antifa. I'd recon some government officials are very involved with it, which is why they promote it. Proud Boys was a small group who got tired of antifa destroying Portland and stood up to them. Note how proud Boys were labeled the bad guys. Funny enough, Proud Boys only became popular thanks to MSM Streisand effect. Proud Boys also was infiltrated by the FBI. Antifa type groups have been around for atleast a hundred years now. Look at what made soviet Russia, look at antifa in Germany. Look at weather underground in the 70s. These are all groups sponsored by evil people to destabilize society. They are all being used as pawns because they are all mentally weak who didn't take free highschool seriously and can be used to pretend they are doing something good for society when in reality most of them are trouble makers and losers. You havent seen a real conservative rebellion yet... Jan 6 was close. But over a million people marched peacefully, they won't tell you that. From a government perspective, both Republicans and Dems are controlled by soviets and the global UN. However, the American conservative people are fully aware of how unconstitutional this is and fight against it, they are labeled the anti Americans while the people burning the flag, tearing down founding fathers statues, and burning cities, are labeled the pro Americans. It's a backward world, but that is what happens when they want to destabilize America for the world government and the Dem Americans citizens just don't get it.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #290 on: December 01, 2021, 03:45:04 PM »
A few of you are stuck on he shouldn’t have been there and that he was 17.

Why shouldn’t he have been there, but all the other people there were ok?

He was charged as an adult so in the eyes of the law his actions were viewed as that of an adult.

Guess this needs to be posted again.

Technically no one should have been there as a curfew was instituted. 

When the mayhem started the law enforcement should have tear gassed the entire area and arrested all who would not leave.

When the police won’t do their job (because of stand down order or they are overwhelmed) civilians must - or anarchy then becomes encouraged.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #291 on: December 01, 2021, 03:46:53 PM »
Yeah, Rittenhouse walked right up to the police, hands up, turned himself in, almost like those police knew him. I do find it strange that the FBI had a drone right on target. Not sure what they knew about Rittenhouse or the other guys. Could have been a pure coincidence, but who knows what the FBI knows. Shoddy that the prosecution would use unclear video evidence. Not sure if FBIs fault or prosecutions fault.


The way I understand it, based on his interview, was that he tried to surrender to the police immediately after it happened, but the officers he talked to advised him that there weren't making arrests and told him to surrender at one of the precincts away from the center of the riots.  What he did was go home and surrender to his local police.  They contacted the Kenosha police and they came and got him.

I've been wrong before, but that's my understanding.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #292 on: December 01, 2021, 04:10:19 PM »
The way I understand it, based on his interview, was that he tried to surrender to the police immediately after it happened, but the officers he talked to advised him that there weren't making arrests and told him to surrender at one of the precincts away from the center of the riots.  What he did was go home and surrender to his local police.  They contacted the Kenosha police and they came and got him.

I've been wrong before, but that's my understanding.

Ahh yes, that's right. What a guy.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #293 on: December 02, 2021, 01:15:42 AM »
If there any riots planned pleased let me know.

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #294 on: December 02, 2021, 06:33:45 AM »
Guess this needs to be posted again.

Technically no one should have been there as a curfew was instituted. 


Kinda, maybe?  The charge of being there after curfew was dropped because the prosecution made no attempt to show that a lawful curfew was ever enacted.  It seems there is a legal process that needed to be followed but wasn't thus someone saying there is a curfew does not make it so.

That was my understanding from watching that part of the trial.

So, yes, no one should have been there but they were.  It seems like a tough moral argument to say it's OK for rioters and looters to be there but no one else should which is what those who say that about Kyle are doing.

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #295 on: December 02, 2021, 11:54:24 AM »
If no one was there... no one would have died. The guy who was shot and survived admitted to pointing a gun at him. People died from the poor choice made that night.

If it comes down to people losing their lives, I prefer the ones looting and burning... no matter who they are.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #296 on: December 03, 2021, 02:15:33 AM »
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #297 on: December 03, 2021, 02:36:36 AM »
If no one was there... no one would have died. The guy who was shot and survived admitted to pointing a gun at him. People died from the poor choice made that night.

If it comes down to people losing their lives, I prefer the ones looting and burning... no matter who they are.

I've been pondering that question, the guy that pointed the gun at him, if he had fired, what would have been the outcome.

ptsd sucks. I know that for a fact.  the whole situation is just a mess. kyle will be used and I think he understands a bit of it. but years down the line, I hope he gets help.  he was just a dumb kid.


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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #298 on: December 03, 2021, 06:05:41 AM »
I've been pondering that question, the guy that pointed the gun at him, if he had fired, what would have been the outcome.

We know mistyarm was trying to murder him so there is not a lot to ponder there.  The media would proclaim him a hero for "stopping an active shooter" even though he wasn't.  That's the game these days when facts don't matter nearly as much as the narrative.

ptsd sucks. I know that for a fact. 

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« Reply #299 on: December 03, 2021, 06:22:59 AM »
If you post more than 4 paragraphs you are an arrogant Baffoon and have nothing to say except look at my intellectual prowess.

Lots of paragraphs discussing dirty crimminal rioters is comedy

I tossed and turned all night worrying about a child rapists running amok at a riot and then getting shot :rofl

Made my day…fact

Another dirty crimminal killing 6 people by running them over is now complaining about his rights….that’s the US for you  :rofl :rofl
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