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Offline leonid

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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2000, 09:14:00 AM »
Wow.  Very interesting.  Aper is right about the similar characteristics between MG-151 & ShVAK, and the Soviet cannon was slightly better than the German one.  Maybe I should have listened harder to you, squadie  

I will fly G-6 for the rest of this tour, using only 20mm cannon, and take a long, hard look at this.


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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2000, 10:34:00 AM »
   
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Originally posted by Fishu:
Minotaur,
death/kill ratios are bullcrap, when you do guys learn that?

You can as well see Spitfire lose its ratio alot when it is being used on base defence alot (vulch vulch vulch, easy kills)
and so on...

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Fishu, you'll notice that I left the Spit IX off the list for this very reason.  IMO Stats are not BS, they reflective comparisons, nothing more.

When the game settles out again after the new version, I'm sure the SpitWhine will go up in volume.      

 
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Every time I climb back into the La5 (was in one last night), I gotta do a serious readjustment on my shooting due to the ShVak Cannons.

Hmmmm...  This might solve a thing or two for myself also.  I have been trying to like the La5, particularly as a low altitude interceptor, but have had troubles in it.

Thanks!    

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Offline Gorf

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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2000, 12:17:00 PM »
 

HOW about the P-63 King cobra for the Russians..  Was a good enough performer would give the RUssian one hell of a  Tanks buster and a very good dogfighter.  Reports on the P-63 said that it could keep pretty good pace with the P51.

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Offline Hristo

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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2000, 03:25:00 PM »
Tried La in TA few times. In dogfight the plane will outperform G-10 on the deck in every aspect.

As for guns, there is a differenc. However, I'd consider low sightline and specific nose of LA.

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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2000, 09:30:00 AM »
From my 1st impression on testing MG-151 in the G-6 I have to say I'm undecided.  I really couldn't get a feeling one way or the other about the two 20mm cannons.  It did seem like the MG-151 ran "truer"(?), but I really think that's a visual effect from having a larger gunsight in the G-6 than in the La-5FN.  In fact, I literally measured the gunsights of the two planes and noticed that the La-5FN's gunsight is quite a bit smaller, resulting in less view space to line-up targets.  Also, the air intake of the La-5FN really blocks out a lot of the view for lining up targets.  Having so little room to see and line up your target in a La-5FN really does make it harder for lead shots, as well as wide deflection shots.

I have to say though that the MG-151 doesn't fire at a faster rate than the ShVAK.  I'll continue flying the 109 until I get a few good opportunities at lead shots (so far, all my 109 kills have been surprises of one sort or another).


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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2000, 10:13:00 AM »
It makes sense that the MG 151/20 in the Bf 109 would have low dispersion.  It's mounted to the engine block!  Most dispersion (I'm told) is caused by deflection of the structure to which the gun is attached.  The engine block is by far the most sturdy piece of metal in the airplane.

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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2000, 08:46:00 PM »
Funked: where do you think the ShVAK are attached to? Either side of the same block.

Leo- the best test I have found is to zoom 1000% percent until the gunsight fills your whole field of view. Fire small busts and see  how big a "square" the tracers hit. I reduce conv to to 275 on La5 to make it's cross more visible.
  As for tracking shots, best way to see is with recordings. slow it right down and inspect just how far off your nose was when you started firing. In my collection the ShVAK requires about 30% more lead than the 109. Often in recordings I astonish myself at how I almost blew a pass by firing WAAY too late, only catching the tail of the plane, often watching that 5th tracer miss while the previous 4 rounds hit. yet in the cockpit view it seems I fired ridiculously early.

With a bit of review I am positive you will notice the velocity variation between these two.

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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2000, 09:39:00 PM »
Peee-Forty-Seven!

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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2000, 11:39:00 PM »
wells..  did you read ANYTHING above that post?

What in gods name has a "p-47" got to do with any of it?

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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2000, 08:41:00 AM »

 P-47 "M"  actually.

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