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Offline Eagler

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #300 on: December 03, 2021, 08:27:14 AM »
If Blake hadn't tried to stab the cop in the first place none of this would have happened...

Or back it up a bit more and if Blake hadn't broken the law numerous times the police would not have tried to serve the warrant where he then tried to stab the cop...

What a screwed up world

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #301 on: December 03, 2021, 08:31:00 AM »
When the people who should be protecting the public state bs like this...do you think that calms a rational persons nerves?

https://youtu.be/d9k8WdPZVP4

Stupid statements like this will lead to more of all of this crazy not less

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #302 on: December 03, 2021, 02:44:32 PM »
We know mistyarm was trying to murder him so there is not a lot to ponder there.  The media would proclaim him a hero for "stopping an active shooter" even though he wasn't.  That's the game these days when facts don't matter nearly as much as the narrative.

You said others don't know what it's like charging hills in Nam and others asked for some authentication which did not happen.  It's reasonable for people to ask that question given what you write.

I don't recall ever saying I was in Vietnam. I do know lots of vets that were in Vietnam. I was born in 64? I did mentioned some time ago that my father was in Vietnam.

I saw a post when I mentioned about you follow orders or get out. was asked if i was in nam. I sarcastically talked that I joined at age 2 and got out at age 11.

but I have never claimed I was there during the war.

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #303 on: December 03, 2021, 03:02:56 PM »
Kinda, maybe?  The charge of being there after curfew was dropped because the prosecution made no attempt to show that a lawful curfew was ever enacted.  It seems there is a legal process that needed to be followed but wasn't thus someone saying there is a curfew does not make it so.

That was my understanding from watching that part of the trial.

So, yes, no one should have been there but they were.  It seems like a tough moral argument to say it's OK for rioters and looters to be there but no one else should which is what those who say that about Kyle are doing.

My point is: a curfew was in place yet the law enforcement did not make people leave. Because of this lack of enforcing the law things then got out of hand.

If anyone going to this “protest” figured they may not have the support of the police and also likely be harassed or attacked for having a different point of view, they certainly have every right to protect themselves from thugs. They have every right to use lethal force when lethal force is being used upon them.

Antifa, BLM and others have proved themselves to encourage and participate in violence and destruction of public and private property in nearly every “protest” they put together. 
« Last Edit: December 03, 2021, 03:09:40 PM by RotBaron »
They're casting their bait over there, see?

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #304 on: December 03, 2021, 03:03:20 PM »
I don't recall ever saying I was in Vietnam. I do know lots of vets that were in Vietnam. I was born in 64? I did mentioned some time ago that my father was in Vietnam.

I saw a post when I mentioned about you follow orders or get out. was asked if i was in nam. I sarcastically talked that I joined at age 2 and got out at age 11.

but I have never claimed I was there during the war.

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Fair enough, here is the offending post:

"that's something you guys will never understand.  they order you take take whatever, hill, bunker, dont matter. you think some guys didnt think hell no, I would rather be home, drink a beer and get laid with my friends sister.  you join, you got a job to do, you do it or get out.

when you understand that, come and talk to me"

Given the words and tone, one might think you were implying that you were speaking from experience, that others are lesser men who could not understand what you did since you were in those situations.  The reality is, no man can sincerely make those types of claims until he did.  Talk it self is a lot cheaper than deeds.

So I think we can both see how that came about.  So you served in the Marines for an 4 year tour during peacetime then?  I'm simply trying to be clear so people don't assume things.  Assuming does no good for anyone.

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #305 on: December 03, 2021, 04:07:07 PM »
still don't understand how it relates to vietnam. I served during the first gulf War. I have mentioned that many times.

I guess when i made that comment I was angry at the suggestion that we could refuse orders by not taking the vaccine. trust me I didn't want to go, most of those around didn't want to go. but we did. that's our job.

the other thing that's hard for me to understand is that it violates my religious beliefs. you join you train to kill, but a vaccine violates that? I was a 7th day adventist Saturday was the sabbath, we supposed to rest, but if I had duty, I did it.



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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #306 on: December 03, 2021, 06:29:40 PM »
When the people who should be protecting the public state bs like this...do you think that calms a rational persons nerves?

https://youtu.be/d9k8WdPZVP4

Stupid statements like this will lead to more of all of this crazy not less

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So funny you posted that. I almost did. It's quite frankly outrageous that she said that. What a complete ignoramus.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #307 on: December 03, 2021, 11:02:23 PM »
So funny you posted that. I almost did. It's quite frankly outrageous that she said that. What a complete ignoramus.

first time I agree with you, that was a stupid comment.  then again she didnt invent alternative facts.


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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #308 on: December 04, 2021, 07:20:54 AM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/gofundme-removes-page-supporting-army-sergeant-shot-killed-armed-black-lives-matter-protester.amp

These people don't respect our military. Not sure why any vet would defend the left. The left never defends them.

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #309 on: December 04, 2021, 03:50:02 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/gofundme-removes-page-supporting-army-sergeant-shot-killed-armed-black-lives-matter-protester.amp

These people don't respect our military. Not sure why any vet would defend the left. The left never defends them.

because he's accused of murder. tos say that clearly.  I had to laugh, not familiar of the specifics but this has to be one of the dumbest comments you have made.

veterans don't get a free pass. and charging one doesn't mean you hate veterans.


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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #310 on: December 04, 2021, 04:08:43 PM »
because he's accused of murder. tos say that clearly.  I had to laugh, not familiar of the specifics but this has to be one of the dumbest comments you have made.

veterans don't get a free pass. and charging one doesn't mean you hate veterans.


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Obviously you didn’t read the article or you have a reading comprehension problem.

Two sides to every story, of course. However, there is a pattern easily seen since 2008 if not longer.

It’s clearly stated that GoFundMe let others accused of a violent crime(s) have used their site, but in this case he shot a BLM “member”…
They're casting their bait over there, see?

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #311 on: December 04, 2021, 04:21:02 PM »
Obviously you didn’t read the article or you have a reading comprehension problem.

Two sides to every story, of course. However, there is a pattern easily seen since 2008 if not longer.

It’s clearly stated that GoFundMe let others accused of a violent crime(s) have used their site, but in this case he shot a BLM “member”…

as fast as i know if you have been cleared of a crime then you can use it.  but not while you are being accused.

there's other sites that will allow it. lots of money to be made on that.


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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #312 on: December 04, 2021, 06:49:35 PM »
as fast as i know if you have been cleared of a crime then you can use it.  but not while you are being accused.

there's other sites that will allow it. lots of money to be made on that.


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They routinely let BLM and Antifa members use it when accused of crimes including serious ones while canceling fundraising by not of the "proper" political views to include people not accused of a crime.

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #313 on: December 05, 2021, 08:12:01 AM »
A double standard in many places these days..

For another watch this comedy of justice ..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/02/us/jussie-smollett-trial/index.html

This wacko doodle should be sent to a mental hospital at least if not prison for trying to start a race war ... you know the main actor from blackish still believes this pile of lying horse dung?

My guess he will walk with zero repercussions

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