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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2022, 06:04:31 AM »


And another wolf from Zemke's Wolfpack. Major B.Gladych P47m Pengie V

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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2022, 08:38:44 AM »
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And another wolf from Zemke's Wolfpack. Major B.Gladych P47m Pengie V

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Hate to burst your bubble "Pengie V" never had nose art.
Not that its relevant here neither did "Pengie IV"










Some pics for your other one that you may or may not have.
















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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2022, 09:11:06 AM »
You killed the penguin...

Do you know this article? https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=717
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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2022, 09:29:02 AM »
Lanowski story (English) https://witoldlanowski.co.uk/

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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2022, 12:23:45 PM »
Nice work.
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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2022, 01:01:45 PM »
You killed the penguin...

Do you know this article? https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=717

Have now. I am aware of the debate though & the answer is black. Other colour photos I have found for this squadron leaves no doubt.  :aok

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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2022, 02:28:16 PM »
Nicely done.

I am aware of the debate though & the answer is black. Other colour photos I have found for this squadron leaves no doubt.  :aok

Is there anything you can post here that can end the debate?

If it's that cut and dry, then Kazan should probably darken his paint shade.


Also, I think the light blue on the insignia is too bright. The screenshots on Pengie make it clear that this color glows in the sunlight.
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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2022, 07:42:42 PM »


Is there anything you can post here that can end the debate?

If it's that cut and dry, then Kazan should probably darken his paint shade.




One of these parts with remaining paint is from a Lancaster and the other a 61st Squadron P-47M?

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235003212-56th-fighter-group-m-colour/



Lets start with "Pengie V".
The image is horribly out of focus still looks black.



3 more 61st birds all look flat black.



The blue roundel pops against the black of HV-S.




"Sue" HV-K.



"Joy Boy" HV-P.











 Lt. Ellis's plane "Blue Eyes" Lt. Ernest H. Treff standing on it.
Flat black it appears to me also the other 61st aircraft in the back ground.



Here is a 63rd squadron plane that Fencer did for the game. A newer book that came out after it was skinned has pointed out something in this image that is easily missed.



The black cowl band is not that far off from the shades of blue used for the 63rd squadron. I think the closeness of some of the 63rd's blue tones get confused with the 61st's black upper surfaces. Plus the huts in the background painted like the jug in the foreground same colours of blue.
 
Look at the plane in a black and white image the black cowl is notably different.



From a 56th fighter group book I have.



Don't be surprised when black earlier models of the P-47 of the 56th fighter group show up in game.  :devil  :bolt:


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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2022, 08:36:08 PM »
Great stuff, Lyric.
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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2022, 10:20:18 PM »
Why on Earth did they go with black?
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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2022, 11:32:28 PM »
Why on Earth did they go with black?

They wanted individual looks for each squadron.
61st chose black.

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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2022, 04:33:04 AM »
Great stuff Lyric thx
Test:


How does my USAF markings look in psd file.


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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #87 on: January 31, 2022, 11:42:33 AM »
They wanted individual looks for each squadron.
61st chose black.

Ah, okay.  Makes sense.
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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2022, 12:46:42 PM »
Great stuff Lyric thx
Test:
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How does my USAF markings look in psd file.

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The insignia looks fine in the PSD, but if that's the same as before then it's too light/bright.

Your main paint color still looks too blue and also over saturated.

I suggest that you try the black shade I used for my P-39Q night fighter "Spare Parts". RGB 33/38/38

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Re: Kazanīs rework skins
« Reply #89 on: February 02, 2022, 05:52:17 PM »
Sq./I by KaZaN  'ah ahem' just saying... :rock