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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2022, 01:53:40 PM »
1984 has been a major and influential book since it was written in 1949.  It even has its own adjective in common use in the English language -- "Orwellian."

However, if you lived in China, the book was only available as of 1985.  It was banned prior to that.

Have you read 1984?  People know about it, but it is a great book to read even so, masterfully written.

1984, Atlas Shrugged, The Mandibles, and Brave New World are, I think, some of the most-important books in the world, but also good stories.

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2022, 02:10:12 PM »
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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2022, 02:20:33 PM »
Our nation's money supply over time.

I thought going from $1.4 trillion to $4 trillion from 2008 to 2019 was bad.

Boy, was I naive.

$4 trillion to $16 trillion in 1 month.

Then $16 to $20 trillion in another 18 months.

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2022, 02:30:01 PM »
1984 has been a major and influential book since it was written in 1949.  It even has its own adjective in common use in the English language -- "Orwellian."

However, if you lived in China, the book was only available as of 1985.  It was banned prior to that.

Have you read 1984?  People know about it, but it is a great book to read even so, masterfully written.

1984, Atlas Shrugged, The Mandibles, and Brave New World are, I think, some of the most-important books in the world, but also good stories.

I read the condensed version back in the 80s. but a brave new world was required reading in my class back in 78. we also compared it to how society worked back then. maybe that's why I have that opinion about books. 7th grade was tough.


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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2022, 02:44:06 PM »
Did you like those books themselves, though?  Two excellent writers, Orwell and Huxley.

I thought the books were great.

Recently, I also really liked The Mandibles, by Shriver.  Independent of theme, I think the writing itself is very good.

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2022, 03:29:45 PM »
I liked Brave New World over 1984.

I thought it more plausible. Just turn the O2 down at birth and you get your worker bee's to support the hive. As an example; The Elevator operator was as happy as could be every time they punched the button for the passengers. "Roof!". . . . lol Like they say in Letterkenny "If you love what you do, you will never work a day in your life".

1984 reminds me more of what loosely goes on in country like China.

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2022, 03:33:47 PM »
Did you like those books themselves, though?  Two excellent writers, Orwell and Huxley.

I thought the books were great.

Recently, I also really liked The Mandibles, by Shriver.  Independent of theme, I think the writing itself is very good.


I read Brave New World and 1984 years ago.  I seemed to remember liking 1984 better.  Both were good though.

I've tried at least 4 times to grind through Atlas Shrugged over the years.  I can't do it.  There is plenty to argue about the philosophical underpinnings,  but that wouldn't bother me.  What bothers me is that it is such cataclysmically, galactically bad writing. 

I understand it is an "important" book.  But important due to the influence it's had, like Das Kapital, or Mein Kamph.  At least no one has had the bad taste to try and novelize those.  Atlas Shrugged is the most one dimensional, thinly veiled political pamphlet disguised as a novel I have ever seen since.... Fountainhead.  :cool: It's not even college sophomore level writing.  The story is shallow, and utterly transparent.  The characters, to be generous, are nothing more than cardboard cutouts. Every time I've tried to read it, I have to put it down due to the migraine it induces from my constant eye-rolling.

The people who love that book love it because it parrots the particular, narrow  eco-political religion they espouse; not because it has any passable resemblance to a well written novel.

Ayn Rand has never written a single good novel or screenplay I know of.  She should have stuck to essays and articles.  If you're going to drop a 1000 page boat anchor on my desk and call it a novel,  I'm going to judge it as a novel and not as a political manifesto.  Rand's works are great novels the way Ishtar was a great movie. 

I'd rather read the Left Behind novels than make another try at Atlas Shrugged again.   :rofl


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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2022, 03:58:51 PM »
Did you like those books themselves, though?  Two excellent writers, Orwell and Huxley.

I thought the books were great.

Recently, I also really liked The Mandibles, by Shriver.  Independent of theme, I think the writing itself is very good.

oh I did. I've been reading books since I can remember.

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2022, 04:08:19 PM »
Nice swing to the down side after the fed said and did absolutely nothing but promise future actions

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2022, 04:16:06 PM »
Nice swing to the down side after the fed said and did absolutely nothing but promise future actions

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when I become president I will put you in charge of the feds.  :cheers:


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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2022, 04:19:02 PM »
when I become president I will put you in charge of the feds.  :cheers:


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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2022, 04:21:53 PM »
Nice swing to the down side after the fed said and did absolutely nothing but promise future actions

Meme stocks, SPACs, crypto-coins,....tulip bulbs.

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2022, 04:56:02 PM »
I thought that was for Zack?

Zack will be in the Supreme Court. he's been wanting to be there to ban 4th of July and replace it with colonial day.

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2022, 07:52:42 PM »
Zack will be in the Supreme Court. he's been wanting to be there to ban 4th of July and replace it with colonial day.


You mean "Traitor Day."

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Re: 2007 Redux Part 2
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2022, 11:54:47 PM »

You mean "Traitor Day."

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naw that was has already been taken.


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