The reason for my reply is that I have a question. Do the touch controllers vibrate in response to stick shaker now? I haven't bothered trying them since my early Rift days.
Thanks for the question easy, When you say stick shaker, do you mean the actual motion of shaking the controller while holding the virtual flight stick ( better known as "stick stirring") and the trigger mechanism for being locked out of your controller while being told to "not move controller too rapidly"?
If thats what you mean, then my answer is two fold. The short answer is no. I have never felt a vibration when it happens. I'll be just flying along, in a bank or pulling from a dive and then literally for no reason the plane stops responding. A quick peek at the chat box and there's the message "DMYCTR".
But I feel I really need to expand a bit, because honestly, I dont know what stick shaking or stick stirring is or how to do it. even when I flew with my HOTAS, I never shook my stick (unless after peeing while standing)..
BUT>> and I feel this is the most important detail regarding my issue.. I have never experienced this problem while flying a plane with a virtual flight stick. Not once. Ever. Not a single flight stick aircraft that I have flown has ever locked me out "dont move controller too rapidly" Not in any vehicle, not in any boat, or gun position either.
I am very smooth with my actions while holding the virtual flight stick, even in a dogfight. I limit my hand motion to the range of the aircrafts stick in the cockpit.
This issue is literally very specific to aircraft with a yoke. I can be flying in a straight and level condition with ZERO HAND movement and look down and see my virtual hand flickering between the left and right hand grip position of the yoke. I have also noticed that it triggers when I get within a certain distance from an enemy object, static or not.
This is the reason I am restricted to flying the 410 and 110. I would much much rather be flying the P38 and Mossy instead but I can't because of that stupid "dont move controller too rapidly".. I have never seen that in any other flight sim I have ever played. I dont even really understand what the heck it means and why it is part of Aces High. but I hate it and it ruins my experience and makes any yoked aircraft in Aces High unplayable for me or anyone else that chooses to fly with touch controllers. To emphasize, I have never experienced this problem while flying an aircraft with a flight stick, regardless of how radical the manuever.
I am convinced it is because of the proximity of the left and right hand grip positions to eachother on the yoke and the code being confused as to which one you are holding. When flying a yoked aircraft which hand do you use? Do you fly with your right hand or your left hand? I dont use both hands to grip the yoke, only the right hand. Visualize it for a moment. As you rotate the yoke clockwise or counter clockwise to execute a turn and your hand and yoke grip reaches the 12 oclock or 6 oclock position, how does the game code know if you are holding the left or right side?
the proximity is too broad and its confusing itself.. thats why I'll see my virtual hand flickering between the left and right grip position just before getting locked out.
Those other 99% of you using a HOTAS to fly yoked planes are essentially cheating and can never even experience that lockout problem because you are not rotating any control mechanism clockwise or counter clockwise to achieve left or right roll as is necessary with yoked aircraft. When you lean your hotas stick left or right the game code simulates that you are rotating a yoke clockwise or counter clockwise. Basicly the code lets you fly yoked aircraft exactly the same as an aircraft with a stick. And that alone gives HOTAS users a gigantic advantage over me or anyone else thathappens to have an actual yoke setup. its programmed cheating. Take the fligt stick out of a P51 mustang and put it in a P38 instead of a yoke and thats what all of you HOTAS user get to fly with.. Super lucky you, Super sucks for me.
Drano, I understand how you feel about touch controller flying, but FOR ME personally, and after 4 years, I can no longer tell any difference and most of the time now I forget I am holding a touch and not the actual stick in plane. my brain tricks me into thinking its the stick in plane i am actually holding. its weird and cool. I would also argue that thos unfortunate souls who have perished under my guns or have failed to shoot me down would agree that there is not a big enough difference to give one an advantage over the other. Am I the best pilot in the game? NO, not even close, but I am damn good, better than most I would even boastfully say.. But in this game, against this community, you better be damn great pilot because every one of you is a top 3 graduate of TopGun!!
Honestly, if there was a battle between Aces High fighter pilots and IL2 fighter pilots, it would be a massacre. Thos poor fools wouldn't know what hit them. In 25 years flying combat sim, I have never seen such incredible skill as I have in Aces High.. It's humbling on those days (like yesterday) when nothing I do prevents me from getting shot down.. and itsalso an incredible sense of accomplishment to get the best of an Aces High Ace in the sky, in a dogfight.. Picks, Vulches, HO's excluded..
Thank You all of you for this unmatched incredible life experience everyday and most deeply and sincerely sorry to those of you I frustratingly turn into a big jerk to. I really dont mean to be and am literally and very hard trying not to get all toxicly raging tantrum like.. Please do forgive me for those of you I have rage offended in the past.