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Offline viking73

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Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« on: February 24, 2022, 02:32:47 PM »
This is a post on Twitter of a partial video of a supposedly a Ukrainian Mig-29 fighting a Russian Su-35. The poster stated wrong the positions. The Ukrainian is high. You can tell by the blue/white camo when he rolls to look at his prey. Then the SU-35 in a darker camo goes by low. The Ukrainian rolls twice to get in position behind the Russian. How do you think this played out? Was the Mig able to get behind the SU? There may have already been smoke coming out of the SU-35 or just jet exhaust. The Russian staying low I think was hoping the Ukrainian would lose sight of him in the 'grass'. Hard battle for Ukraine but they are fighting. Same poster had shots of a downed Russian helo and some destroyed vehicles.

You'll want to maximize the video. I've had at least 1 response on Twitter say that they're both Ukrainian Mig-29's???

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1496821171119079430
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2022, 03:54:56 PM »
Pitiful but I'm sorry... the U.S. has no obligation to defend Ukraine
b/c they are not a member of NATO... other than supply arms... now if Russia
attacks a NATO country, then we are obligated
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2022, 03:57:31 PM »
Pitiful but I'm sorry... the U.S. has no obligation to defend Ukraine
b/c they are not a member of NATO... other than supply arms... now if Russia
attacks a NATO country, then we are obligated
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2022, 04:04:31 PM »
Sorry Spike... wasn't trolling but u have to admit...
this post could be construed as an advertisement
for the U.S. to defend Ukraine
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2022, 04:22:11 PM »
How long have you guys been here?
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2022, 05:23:08 PM »
Agree with they're both Mig-29's.

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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2022, 05:30:42 PM »
This is a post on Twitter of a partial video of a supposedly a Ukrainian Mig-29 fighting a Russian Su-35. The poster stated wrong the positions. The Ukrainian is high. You can tell by the blue/white camo when he rolls to look at his prey. Then the SU-35 in a darker camo goes by low. The Ukrainian rolls twice to get in position behind the Russian. How do you think this played out? Was the Mig able to get behind the SU? There may have already been smoke coming out of the SU-35 or just jet exhaust. The Russian staying low I think was hoping the Ukrainian would lose sight of him in the 'grass'. Hard battle for Ukraine but they are fighting. Same poster had shots of a downed Russian helo and some destroyed vehicles.

You'll want to maximize the video. I've had at least 1 response on Twitter say that they're both Ukrainian Mig-29's???

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1496821171119079430

Definitely both MiG-29's and based on how they are flying, It's safe to say that they are on the same side.
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2022, 05:57:21 PM »
How does one distinguish between a Mig 29 and a Mig 35? I thought they were more or less the same airframe with the Mig 35 having an upgraded airframe and upgraded avionics and weapon systems. Those things dont exactly stand out unless you have a look underneath the hood. Any Mig drivers out there that can enlighten us?

I agree that those two look like they are on the same team.

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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2022, 06:19:38 PM »
Su-35 not MiG-35

Yes, the MiG-35 is a thing, and you are right about the differences between the -29 and -35.

But this twitter post says it's a Ukrainian MiG-29 vs. Russian Su-35

Yes, both top of the line fighters in the MiG and Sukhoi lines are both numbered 35 and derived from earlier types.

MiG-29 --> MiG-35
Su-27 --> Su-35
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2022, 06:46:39 PM »
Ah . . . .  I missed that. Thanks that clears things up . . . .

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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2022, 07:40:40 PM »
Definitely both MiG-29's and based on how they are flying, It's safe to say that they are on the same side.

This is what I was thinking. I read the post thinking some intense fighter action was taking place. However, 5 seconds of low level slow flight with no snap maneuvers, while both planes look almost identical, Indicate cap style flying.
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2022, 09:01:15 PM »
This is what I was thinking. I read the post thinking some intense fighter action was taking place. However, 5 seconds of low level slow flight with no snap maneuvers, while both planes look almost identical, Indicate cap style flying.

Looks like they ate being vectored for an intercept.  But that is all supposition on my part.
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2022, 09:25:28 PM »
It looks like an overhead rejoin. High guy doing some s turns to join up with the low guy. Definitely doesn't look like they're fighting.
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2022, 04:43:38 AM »
Nevermind.  i r dumb
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Re: Ukrainian/Russian dogfight
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2022, 07:53:06 AM »
It looks like an overhead rejoin. High guy doing some s turns to join up with the low guy. Definitely doesn't look like they're fighting.

My thought also.  Looks more like a tactical rejoin headed to the next engagement. 



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