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Offline Eagler

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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2022, 06:59:51 AM »
MNM and KOTH are great alternatives to MA IMO  and should be enjoyed by all

I was cannon fodder for all in KOTH for quite a bit before I could get a kill here and there

MNM is the place to be to sharpen your aim - you will not get more opportunities in an hour (8 to 9pm est) anywhere else

Hope to see more of all of you in both

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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2022, 08:39:07 AM »
MNM and KOTH are great alternatives to MA IMO  and should be enjoyed by all

I was cannon fodder for all in KOTH for quite a bit before I could get a kill here and there

MNM is the place to be to sharpen your aim - you will not get more opportunities in an hour (8 to 9pm est) anywhere else

Hope to see more of all of you in both

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Agreed, MNM is about aim/picking, not so much about SA.

My biggest issue with MNM is the icon settings not being the same- and I don't mean the no icon aspect, but rather the friendly icon 3k, enemy icon 1k, it benefits pickers, pure and simple and doesn't help defensive SA because an enemy has the advantage when you're engaged with someone else - seeing you 3k out and you can't really respond until they're in guns range (1k or less) - you might not even see their plane with the fog and buildings.

This is why my presence in MNM has been minimal. The playing field isn't level.  It can be fun, I guess, but it's not for me.  Make it so all icons friendly/enemy are the same 1k, 3k or whatever and you might find me back with a more level playing field.

I've always had issues with this setting when it was run in the AvA/CT.
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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2022, 10:05:16 AM »
MNM and KOTH are great alternatives to MA IMO  and should be enjoyed by all

I was cannon fodder for all in KOTH for quite a bit before I could get a kill here and there

MNM is the place to be to sharpen your aim - you will not get more opportunities in an hour (8 to 9pm est) anywhere else

Hope to see more of all of you in both

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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2022, 12:28:51 PM »
the best part of Monday Night Madness is it doesn't produce 3-page dissertations like this. its all about fun, sometimes yours, sometimes the other guys!

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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2022, 10:21:25 PM »

<S> to all who play the game. god love each and every one of you!!


I have missed MNMadness as well as your company Jaeger and the rest of the  crowd...

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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2022, 06:06:11 AM »


Agreed, MNM is about aim/picking, not so much about SA.

My biggest issue with MNM is the icon settings not being the same- and I don't mean the no icon aspect, but rather the friendly icon 3k, enemy icon 1k, it benefits pickers, pure and simple and doesn't help defensive SA because an enemy has the advantage when you're engaged with someone else - seeing you 3k out and you can't really respond until they're in guns range (1k or less) - you might not even see their plane with the fog and buildings.

This is why my presence in MNM has been minimal. The playing field isn't level.  It can be fun, I guess, but it's not for me.  Make it so all icons friendly/enemy are the same 1k, 3k or whatever and you might find me back with a more level playing field.

I've always had issues with this setting when it was run in the AvA/CT.
? I cant wrap my head around your Objections, as MNM Settings go! EVERYONE that I have talked into participating..."WHERE did HE COME FROM"! Having friendlies being shown..gives false sense of security? Its the DOT, that will kill you! MNM Vastly improved my SA! Agree too Disagree I guess? FYI! I didnt post this Film as a SLAM towards you,Sir! As stated, I missed more than my share of SA miscues! KOTH is your thing, MNM is mine! I wasnt intending to be degrading....towards either approach.
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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2022, 09:15:16 AM »
Maybe some pictures will help clarify my point.  As soon as I figure out a decent hosting site.

https://ibb.co/hCmgk8w

? I cant wrap my head around your Objections, as MNM Settings go! EVERYONE that I have talked into participating..."WHERE did HE COME FROM"! Having friendlies being shown..gives false sense of security? Its the DOT, that will kill you! MNM Vastly improved my SA! Agree too Disagree I guess? FYI! I didnt post this Film as a SLAM towards you,Sir! As stated, I missed more than my share of SA miscues! KOTH is your thing, MNM is mine! I wasnt intending to be degrading....towards either approach.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2022, 09:36:03 AM by Shane »
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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2022, 10:55:38 AM »
Good illustration.

It makes it different and more difficult than MA in the icon aspect anyways

Just be "C" more often if you think that is advantageous

Just watch out for the other "C"'s  :)

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Re: Shane's Math /SA failure
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2022, 04:54:31 AM »
Good illustration.

It makes it different and more difficult than MA in the icon aspect anyways

Just be "C" more often if you think that is advantageous

Just watch out for the other "C"'s  :)

Eagler
And this is why I miss My Blizz...Pink Spit, aka Bait :rofl Clip Board map is negated. Even the "DOT VIS" seems to be retarded, compared to MA? Keeping adequate SA is a struggle, thus my claims of improvement in MA, SA.If I narrowed down, the reason I get killed in MNM...its because "MUST Kill Eagler(defense of niece Blizz)/Puma/Jaeger"? It is just different enough, to keep me interested? My K/D in MA, VASTLY IMPROVED. VR was also a HUGE Factor, I am sure? When training my Niece, with Puma44's assistance.. MNM was INTREGAL! Will always hold a special place in my AH memories!   If DCS had anything like the settings we have in MNM, you guys would hardly see me at all!
« Last Edit: March 24, 2022, 05:34:12 AM by 1stpar3 »
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