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Offline fd ski

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Ukraine.....
« on: March 19, 2022, 04:24:30 PM »
I just logged off from AH, totally aghast.

I can't believe how big of inroads russia propagada made into american minds.

Context - i live in Warsaw. We always had sizeable Ukrainian population, those days even more so.
I've been to the border, helped to move a russian speaking family from Dombas to Warsaw. Grandma, mother, child aged 2. Scared, worried about their men.

I log on to Ah and i hear "nazis in ukraine" troupe. Gents, for all its worth. I've been here 23 years, most of you "know" me in AH fashion. I'm no bot/spammer.

Are there nazis in ukraine ? yeah. Same as there are in USA, Poland or Russia. In every population there is a small group of
impotent cretins who need to satisfy there inferiority complex. They are usually uneducated, often ultras for some soccer club etc. When Ukraine was attacked in 2014 they even formed a militia unit- Azov. It still exists today, being wiped out in Mariupol. Thing is, over last 8 years not many nazi's are left in it.

Are nazis's in charge of Ukraine government? Absolutely not. Their president is a Jew for f...s sakes.
Their government is pro western. Ukrainians are getting richer by day. They travel to Europe pretty freely and often work there. They felt a taste of freedom, ability to work and earn a good living, and they like it.
Why does this bother Putin ? Because Ukraine and Russia are very culturally close and there are strong family bonds. Rich Ukraine will quickly lead to his own people wondering why they are so poor. Why they can't have all the cool stuff. It will be an end of his kleptocratic regime.
He needs Russia surrounded with poor, destitute nations like Belarus. So that his people see even more dismal conditions then their own. Sprinkle some patriotism and you're all set.

Truth is not in the middle. Truth is where the truth is.

Ukraine was attacked in 2014, despite Russian/USA/UK guarantees and is currently being wiped off the map.
Innocent people, civilians are being executed. Towns leveled.
Please, i beg you, don't parrot that retarded Russian propaganda. There are freedom loving people, peaceful people, being brutalized right now. If you can help, please do. Least you can do is not help the enemy by endorsing their lies.

 

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Re: Ukraine.....
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2022, 04:31:53 PM »
So true, Ski.

Stay Strong.

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Re: Ukraine.....
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2022, 04:36:40 PM »
Amen.  Get facts straight.  It is a war pressed by Russia.  They simply want something someone else has.  Russia, or should I say Putin, has no illusions.  He could care less about the Ukrainian people or for his own soldiers.  He's an evil Despot. He will make others die for what he wants. I could not put it more simply.

Some of us are old enough to remembering watching the news Russian Tanks in the streets of Hungary quelling the population forcibly.  What Poland went through to become an independent country.
The Czech republic etc.  Same old song unfortunately.  Iron fisted Leaders with an ignorant population believing the propaganda.

fd/ski <S> well done.  May God be with the people of Poland, and for people of the Ukraine.who are suffering massively.  We should not stand with anything but ones own freedom, peace and security.
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Re: Ukraine.....
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2022, 04:37:40 PM »
It's the same around the world, even here in NZ on local forums I'm seeing the same crap.

I have a huge amount of respect for what the Polish people are doing for the Ukrainian refugees, <S> Ski!

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2022, 04:52:29 PM »
Thank you Ski for saying what you said. I am in Canada so I cannot even begin to appreciate the frustration and anger you must feel being so close to this Russian atrocity. Nevertheless, the war crimes being committed by the Russian army are not being censored on Canadian television and like most Canucks (we have our share of ignorant nazis too), I am incensed about what is going on.
The parallel to Hitler's blitzkrieg invasion of Poland in September 1939 is too similar to ignore... This "Dicktator" has to be stopped now or we will have to later.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2022, 05:00:23 PM »
you have to understand that a small segment get their news from Facebook and some people who's only interest in news is how much money they get by creating controversy. their own network attorneys have successfully defended them in court by saying no reasonable person would believe them. and yet many people do believe them.

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2022, 07:17:08 PM »
 :salute fd ski

Ch 200 can be a cesspool at times for sure. The inroads run deeper than you see.  :bhead


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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2022, 08:16:30 PM »
Weakness (not Ukraine) will always be exploited by bullies.

Proxy war and appeasement…historically how has that worked out?
They're casting their bait over there, see?

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2022, 08:25:45 PM »
I just logged off from AH, totally aghast.

I can't believe how big of inroads russia propagada made into american minds.

Not Americans in general.  Those that like baseball caps of a district color.  They have a harhdon for Putin.  They never saw a Authoritarian that didn't give them wood.

If they got their way, America would be ruled like Putin's Russia.  That way, we'd be STRONG!



Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2022, 08:37:06 PM »
Not Americans in general.  Those that like baseball caps of a district color.  They have a harhdon for Putin.  They never saw a Authoritarian that didn't give them wood.

If they got their way, America would be ruled like Putin's Russia.  That way, we'd be STRONG!

Your ignorance and prejudice know no bounds.
They're casting their bait over there, see?

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2022, 08:51:20 PM »
Your ignorance and prejudice know no bounds.

Yawn.  OK, Gaylord.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2022, 10:48:02 PM »
Thank you Ski for saying what you said.


Agreed.  Thanks.

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2022, 11:51:01 PM »
Glory to Ukraine!
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2022, 12:47:03 AM »
Your ignorance and prejudice know no bounds.

on the other hand, this is bs.


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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2022, 01:17:27 AM »
on the other hand, this is bs.


semp

So you’re also accusing Trump supporters of being pro-Russian/Putin in the invasion and war against Ukraine?

That is what is total BS. 

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They're casting their bait over there, see?