Amendment question

[perdue3]

That is happening now...

Was wondering if a two term president could be vice president elected or otherwise

What I read it is not clear

Eagler

That's a pretty easy one.

Amendment XII states that no person may be Vice President if they are not eligible to be President. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." Thus, a two term former President may not be a Vice President because of Amendment XXII.

NO.  BO can't.  He has had 2 terms.

MO could, and could technically pick BO as VP.  But BO, could not ascend to pres if MO died.  Succession would have to skip over him.  So they would never do that.  He would have to settle for hubby-in-chief.

This is mostly false. Barrack Obama cannot be a Vice President. See above.

[RotBaron]

right up until those who dont like what you say report it.  Want to guess what 4 will be first to do so?

Too easy to guess them 

[Eagler]

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

Is what I saw which doesn't cover vp

Thanks for the info

Eagler

[perdue3]

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

Is what I saw which doesn't cover vp

Thanks for the info

Eagler

Correct, you need both Amendment XII and XXII to get the clear understanding.

[decoy]

Because I was actually curious and thought someone here would know the answer

It seems to be a yes or no answer

Eagler

I think if someone ascends to the presidency in the fourth year of that term, that person is eligible for re-election two times.  But if they ascend it the first year of that term, then they get one more term, of four years if elected.  I'd go on, but I think this thread is likely to get locked before I hit send.  You've been on a roll lately, Eagler.   

[Eagler]

Correct, you need both Amendment XII and XXII to get the clear understanding.

Thanks for the clarity!

Eagler

[perdue3]

I think if someone ascends to the presidency in the fourth year of that term, that person is eligible for re-election two times.  But if they ascend it the first year of that term, then they get one more term, of four years if elected.  I'd go on, but I think this thread is likely to get locked before I hit send.  You've been on a roll lately, Eagler.   

No. If you become President in the fourth year, that counts as your first term, even if it is for one day. After which, you may be elected once or ascend once more as the VP.

It is likely worth mentioning that in the build up to Amendment XX, there was once a section that died. This section was about ascendency during the lame duck session. It would have spelled out what constitutes a term and what does not in this very situation. It would have stated that if the lame duck Vice President should ascend to President, it would not count as a term because it is in the lame duck session. Alas, this was not placed in the Amendment and so, if it were to happen, would still count as a term served.

[guncrasher]

I think if someone ascends to the presidency in the fourth year of that term, that person is eligible for re-election two times.  But if they ascend it the first year of that term, then they get one more term, of four years if elected.  I'd go on, but I think this thread is likely to get locked before I hit send.  You've been on a roll lately, Eagler.   

a vice-president who takes over as president can be elected twice as long as his first term is 2 years minus 1 day.

semp

[guncrasher]

No. If you become President in the fourth year, that counts as your first term, even if it is for one day. After which, you may be elected once or ascend once more as the VP.

it doesn't count as long as it's 2 years minus 1 day.

semp

[perdue3]

it doesn't count as long as it's 2 years minus 1 day.

semp

In Amendment XXII, yes. You can be elected twice if you ascended to the presidency and served a shorter than two year term.

[CptTrips]

This is mostly false. Barrack Obama cannot be a Vice President. See above.

Ah OK.  I stand corrected.  They'd be dumb to try that anyway.  The entire purpose of the VP is to stand in the wings to replace the POTUS (everything else is just busy work) so it would be  ridiculous to put some one in that couldn't fullfil that purpose. 

So it makes sense.

[JimmyD3]

Aaaaand now it's political. 

LOL and why is that???/

[Busher]

"They'd be dumb to try that anyway."

They? And this is not political?

I B T L

[CptTrips]

They? And this is not political?

They as in MO and BO.  If MO ran for pres and tried to to select BO as the VP. "They" as in that ticket of MO and BO. 

I'm not saying "they" as in the Illuminati or Reptilians or something. 

What would be the appropriate way to word that?  How about:

MO running as POTUS and trying to put BO as the VP would be a dumb move.  And apparently unconstitutional which makes sense. Since he could not fulfil the purpose of that role since he can not be POTUS again.  So doing something that could not work, would be a dumb move.

I can white wash it for you if you prefer. 

An individual running for POTUS trying to select a VP that would have no possibility to fulfill the fundamental purpose of the role due to already reaching the term limit for that office, would be a dumb move.

 

[guncrasher]

They as in MO and BO.  If MO ran for pres and tried to to select BO as the VP. "They" as in that ticket of MO and BO. 

I'm not saying "they" as in the Illuminati or Reptilians or something. 

What would be the appropriate way to word that?  How about:

MO running as POTUS and trying to put BO as the VP would be a dumb move.  And apparently unconstitutional which makes sense. Since he could not fulfil the purpose of that role since he can not be POTUS again.  So doing something that could not work, would be a dumb move.

I can white wash it for you if you prefer. 

An individual running for POTUS trying to select a VP that would have no possibility to fulfill the fundamental purpose of the role due to already reaching the term limit for that office, would be a dumb move.

not sure if a president candidate running for office has to select a vicepresident.  however I do know that a vice president needs to be able to fulfill the duties as president.  so somebody that selects somebody as vice president if elected then that vice president cannot be intalled as vice president if it doesnt fulfill the requirements to be in office as per the constitution.  so technically just for the sake of argument  anybody can select bush jr as vice president but bush jr cannot serve as vice president if his mate gets elected. 

this is similar to what happened under nixon, not exactly the same, but gerald ford who was not elected to vice president or president became the president.  he was selected as vice president when agnew resigned then as president when nixon resigned.



semp