Author Topic: Me410A-1 and Mosquito FB.VI Series 2: Needed Adversaries (Read 711 times)

Karnak · « **on:** July 23, 2001, 06:04:00 PM »

These two aircraft would be great additions to the AH plane set. It would be great to see them both added in AH v1.08.

Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U2 Hornisse

Type: Two Seat Heavy Fighter

Powerplant: Two 1,750 hp Damlier-Benz DB 603A.

Performance: Maximum speed 388 mph at 21,980 ft; Cruising Speed 364 mph; Service Ceiling 32,810 ft.

Climb Rate: Climb to 22,000 ft in 10 min 42 sec

Range: 1,050 miles with internal fuel.

Weight: Empty 16,600 lbs; Typical 24,800 lbs.

Dimensions: Span 53 ft 7.75 in; length 40 ft 11.5 in; height 14 ft 0.5 in; wing area 390 sq.ft; Empty Wing Loading 42 lbs/sq.ft; Typical Wing Loading 63 lbs/sq.ft.

Armament: Two 20mm MG 151/20 cannon with 350 rounds per gun and two 20mm MG 151/20 cannon with 250 rounds per gun and two 7.92mm MG 17 machine guns with 1,000 rounds per gun fixed forward and two 13mm MG 131 trainable lateral-firing machine guns in remote controlled power-operated FDSL barbettes on the sides of the fuselage with 500 rounds each.

Ordinance: Two 500kg bombs in the bomb bay and external racks for two 500kg bombs or two 1,000kg bombs.

Ruestatz External Gun Packs: R2 Fitted with an additional two 30mm MK 108 cannon; R3 Fitted with an additional two 30mm MK 103 cannon; R4 Fitted with an additional two 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon; R5 Fitted with an additional four 20mm MG 151/20 cannon.

De Havilland Mosquito FB.Mk VI Series 2

Type: Two Seat Fighter/Bomber

Powerplant: Two 1,635 hp Rolls-Royce Merlin 25 engines.

Performance: Maximum Speed 380 mph at 13,000 ft; Maximum Speed 345 mph at Sea Level; Cruising Speed 325 mph at 15,000 ft; Cruising Speed 296 mph at Sea Level; Service Ceiling 33,000 ft.

Climb Rate: Initial climb rate of 2,870 ft per minute

Range: 1,120 miles with internal fuel.

Weight: Empty 14,300 lbs; Max Takeoff 22,300 lbs.

Dimensions: Span 54 ft 2 in; Length 40 ft 6 in; Height 15 ft 3.5 in; Wing Area 454 sq.ft; Empty Wing Loading 31 lbs/sq.ft; Max Takeoff Wing Loading 49 lbs/sq.ft.

Armament: Four 20mm Hispano Mk II cannon with 150 rounds per gun or an overload of 175 rounds per gun and four .303 Browning machine guns with 500 rounds per gun or an overload of 780 rounds per gun.

Ordinance: Two 250 lb bombs or two 500 lb bombs in the bomb bay and external racks for two 250 lb bombs or two 500 lb bombs or two mines or two depth charges or two 50 Imperial gallon drop tanks or two 100 Imperial gallon drop tanks or eight 60 lb rockets or eight 60 lb rockets and two 50 Imperial gallon drop tanks or two Imperial 100 gallon drop tanks.

Your thoughts?

Thanks.

[ 07-23-2001: Message edited by: Karnak ]

Zigrat · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2001, 06:47:00 PM »

these 2 aircraft would be very very very nice to have!

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2001, 06:51:00 PM »

F4F-3 (1.6MB pdf d/l)
-SW

Staga · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2001, 06:52:00 PM »

B-model with DB603G engines and you got a deal.

Urchin · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2001, 07:18:00 PM »

I'd love to have both of those in the game!

Karnak · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2001, 07:50:00 PM »

SWulfe,

What does the Wildcat have to do with the Me410 and Mosquito? It doesn't even serve close to the same role.

Why request yet another American aircraft, in this case one that would add nearly nothing to the game due to the presence of the Hellcat, in a thread about two completely different aircraft?

If you are interested in the F4F-3 Wildcat, start a thread pertaining to it.

Thanks.

juzz · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2001, 11:09:00 PM »

He already did that. Now he's infecting other threads with his evil Wildcat plans for world domination!

Btw, I assume you remove your sig when posting in threads not pertaining to the Mosquito?

Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:57:00 AM »

Juzz,

No, but I don't seek out threads about other aircraft only to post a request for an entirely different aircraft in the body of my message. I especially don't do so without even mentioning anything about the aircraft the thread is about.

He could have simply said something like "No, I don't think that either the Me410 or Mosquito should be added. Neither will bring anything to the MA and there are enough German and British aircraft already. I would prefer HTC to work on other things."

But instead he hijacked the thread.

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mortis · « **Reply #8 on:** July 24, 2001, 01:44:00 AM »

I'd love to see the Mosquito added. Vroooooooom! (er, no. I'm not 10

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AKSWulfe · « **Reply #9 on:** July 24, 2001, 07:40:00 AM »

The difference between me posting "I don't think these aircraft will be used much in the MA, but for scenarios they may be great" and me simply posting a link to a PDF document about F4F-3 is that you don't have to read it/download it if you don't want to.

I didn't hijack this thread, I threw in what I think would be a better plane for the MA. It was used in WB a lot, why not here?

Anyways, back to your regularly scheduled uber fest.

EDIT: And as Juzz pointed out I did start my own thread, in the proper forum: Aircraft and Vehicles!

-SW

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Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2001, 11:55:00 AM »

SWulfe,

An explanation of why you put that info in here makes it much more understandable.

Yes, I saw the thread on the F4F.

These are both 1943 aircraft. Nothing "Uber" about them.

AN · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:08:00 PM »

Karnak:
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Why request yet another American aircraft, in this case one that would add nearly nothing to the game due to the presence of the Hellcat, ....
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Lol, I can't believe you said we don't need the Wildcat because we already have the Hellcat!

I'd rather have the F4F than almost any other plane that could be added, or that we already have.

anRky

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:16:00 PM »

They're both more uber than a F4F-3!

Not like it matters whether or not I "hijack" this thread, HTC adds planes as they see fit.
-SW

Karnak · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:23:00 PM »

Swulfe,

Yeah, but a A6M2 is ubër compared to an F4F-3.

Yes, HTC will add aircraft as they see fit, but you and I, like many others, will express what we would like to see. Maybe you'll get lucky in 1.08, maybe I will, most likely something else entirely will be added.

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AKSWulfe · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:25:00 PM »

I was just throwing in a pitch for my airplane in addition to these planes. Otherwise I would of said "instead please model this..."

Don't worry Karnak, I'm not a one plane monger... the more the better. I just like me some Wildcat the most!

-SW