Question on film quality

[HollyWood750]

Interesting problem here.  When I'm flying, everything looks clear.  Film playback, everything looks clear.  But if I use Bandicam/Fraps/OBS/Whatever to record from film playback, the results look like crap.  I've tried upping frame rates, etc, and followed the suggestions on the appropriate websites.  I did blame it on the video card I was using (AMD RX570 with 4 GB of ram), but I installed an EVGA FTW3 3080 with 12GB of ram last week, and I can't see a difference in recording results.  I have not tried any of the programs while in-game, because recordable moments can be far-between, but suspect the results would be the same.  I guess I need to try it though.  Will do that shortly.   

Any suggestions?   

Thanks!

HlyWd

[Drano]

All depends on the quality settings used in your software. Any of them will produce a great looking video. But if you're worried about the file size and dial back on the quality it's gonna prolly be crappy looking (pixelated, washed out). File type is another factor. An uncompressed avi is a higher quality file. Other types like mp4 compress the video to save space. Best you can do is make the best compromise between your quality settings and your hard drive space. Higher KBs will produce better quality video.

Same rules apply when streaming. Use the highest KBs your bandwidth can accommodate for the best looking stream.

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[RichardDarkwood]

I use the twitch studio app

really easy to set up and the quality is good.

[Drano]

Yeah but it's all about the bit rate. Higher bit rate =better quality but also= larger file size. That's just how it works. Just about any software you might use to do this has these adjustments. Also, be sure to select constant bit rate. That and a 4k vid file will be larger than a 1080p file.

But the best laid plans really get trashed when you upload your video to someplace like YT. You notice it'll say "processing" for maybe a lot longer than it took to upload. They're compressing your video themselves before posting it. So it's important to upload a higher quality video knowing they're gonna knock it down a few pegs anyway.

Noticeable things might be dots you saw in the distance in your video when you put it together not being visible when viewed on YT. That kind of thing. So aim a little higher uploading to compensate. Uploading a marginal quality video is really gonna look bad by the time they're done with it!

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[HollyWood750]

Thanks Drano, Darkwood!   

[RichardDarkwood]

Twitch studio records in Mp4 format so it is easier to work with.

[sanfordpaul]

If you have an Nvdia graphics card you can use Shadow Play. It's really easy and you don't have to worry about settings too much.

With OBS there are a thousand different settings and it takes a lot of trial and error to fiqure out what's correct.

I just use Shadow Play and record from my cockpit. You can also run AH Film Viewer and record using Shadow Play.

If your thinking about getting a graphics card, this would be a big reason to get an NVIDIA one.

This is what my latest video looks like for comparison.

[Chalenge]

The best way is to use a dedicated capture card on a second system using lossless formats/data rates. Then you can edit it down to whatever bitrate you want, but then YouTube settings will give you jaggies and blurriness again.

[sanfordpaul]

Did you try your new settings yet.

I'm interested to know what you find out?

[LCADolby]

Best way I found was to film AH, is to do it from the film viewer at half or quarter speed at 72FPS.
Then to speed up the footage in your editing software to the actual speed or slightly over.

One of my settings is
x0.28 recorded in AH Filmviewer and Play at x4.0in Vegas

[sanfordpaul]

Interesting Dolby.

Why would you do that?

[LCADolby]

Interesting Dolby.

Why would you do that?

Smooth, all for the smooth

[HollyWood750]

Results- I tried some changes.  Seems to look best in Shadowplay, but it is recording the whole desktop, including the film viewer, not just the video window.  Still looking through settings.  Thanks for all the advice.   

HW

[sanfordpaul]

Yeah. I just play the film viewer and move the camera around while recording in shadow play. Then in the editing software I zoom in so you can’t see the windows and controls. Obviously this is not the best for quality. But in terms of time to make your video it’s pretty good.

[HollyWood750]

Tried your method, and realized it's the output of the editing program (Movie Studio Platinum 17) that looks like crap.  The source video recorded from Shadowplay is fine.