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Offline nopoop

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Re: Can I vent ??
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2022, 04:56:39 PM »
The large maps were doable when there was 400-600 people on line.

The large maps fail with 90 people.

I wish Dale would take the interest and have our map makers submit small maps. For approval. I did skins and no nothing about making maps, what is required etc. But we HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO.

Crap I would learn maps if there was  "any" chance for approval. I got the time  :D

The only requirements would be small maps, closer fields and tripling the hardness of CV's.

Then we'd have the best of both worlds. The base takers would continue, the alt monkey gangers could keep ganging...

And the fighters would have a census concentrated area in which to fight. You know, do that pilot stuff. Which is why I'm here.

As Eagler said, it will unfortunately just remain the same. A flying game played in the dirt..
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2022, 05:43:27 PM »
Here's my take, having been here since 2010, and another 10 years in Fighter Ace prior to that.

We have maybe 50 fighter pilots left subscribing. If even that. The rest are WW2 players, who only fly planes to serve the war purpose in one way or another and don't really engage in any prolonged furballing. They're quick to jump in manned guns and GVs when enemy planes arrive.

Of those 50, maybe 10% are highly skilled, typically winning 90% of their engagements, regardless of their disadvantage. They'll be in the G6/K4, Spit8/9 and F4Us, sometimes Ki84 or Jug. Then there are about 20% who are skilled in SA, but less so in ACM. They fly very carefully, prioritizing survival, and only engage if they have substantial advantages. This is where you find the Tempest, Yak3, 190D and P51.

The other 70% are 1:1 players. Almost no chance of beating the 30%, but can find occasional fun burning around in Yaks, Spixteens and La7s, killing Brewsters and Zekes, or anyone else that gets caught up in an engagement or is unable to dodge the merge-HO.  :bolt:

There are of course exceptions, but that's my random take on what's left of the air combat aspect of this game.

I don't have the answers on how to fix things. I watched the demise of my other beloved game, despite the huge amount of changes and efforts to respond to the community's wishes, right up until the end. I see the writing on the wall, but I still plan on being here until the end. Despite some folks' belief that it's the "uber" pilots that cause people to quit, I submit that it's the dedicated dogfighters that help and support squaddies and teammates that are sustaining this game.

I think smaller maps with more concentrated fights would certainly help. Getting rid of LW birds won't make any difference, since there will still be one plane that is faster than the others.

I still love this game for those rare nights that there are good fights. There's just nothing better than a sustained furball with close bases (Northco) or CV battles so it stays low and fast. It is sad and frustrating that air combat is the exception now. I can't tell you how many times already this month I've upped for a sortie, flown around for 30+ minutes without squeezing the trigger. That happened tonight, which is why I'm sitting here blabbing on the BBS.

But I will keep trying and keep hoping for that one good night, or even the one good fight, which makes it all worth it.








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Re: Can I vent ??
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2022, 06:24:36 PM »
Simon I agree on all points. Including getting into a great fight on occasion does make it worth it.
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2022, 09:09:30 PM »
Skilled players rarely fly spits.
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2022, 09:22:29 PM »
ya know i never have problems finding or creating fights anytime of day... there can be 7 players in the MA and ill start something that will last hours everytime :neener: :rock :bolt:

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Offline nopoop

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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2022, 09:30:46 PM »
Bull crap
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2022, 09:36:48 PM »
Skilled players rarely fly spits.


If only that were so.  I see very skilled players flying Spits, La7s, Doras, Franks, and Yak3s.  Occasionally I will call them out, as in "Hey, [name], what in the world are you doing in a [dweeb plane]?"  Sometimes they answer, sometimes not.  I'm sure they justify it to themselves somehow.

Deal with it.  Fights are more challenging if your opponent is better-armed.

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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2022, 03:50:10 AM »
Its sad when you have those who use stick stirring to the point of warping as a valid evasive maneuver. Generally its the Yak and Spit crowd doing this as of late. I too have been frustrated with the state of the MA lately, there are just no good sustained furballs or fights, especially off hours.

Getting someone into the match play arena is always fun, but good luck finding more than 2 or 3 other people a week willing to risk their Fight pilot egos in an actual somewhat fair contest.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2022, 04:02:10 AM »

If only that were so.  I see very skilled players flying Spits, La7s, Doras, Franks, and Yak3s.  Occasionally I will call them out, as in "Hey, [name], what in the world are you doing in a [dweeb plane]?"  Sometimes they answer, sometimes not.  I'm sure they justify it to themselves somehow.

Deal with it.  Fights are more challenging if your opponent is better-armed.

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Re: Can I vent ??
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2022, 04:11:10 AM »
Its sad when you have those who use stick stirring to the point of warping as a valid evasive maneuver. Generally its the Yak and Spit crowd doing this as of late. I too have been frustrated with the state of the MA lately, there are just no good sustained furballs or fights, especially off hours.

Getting someone into the match play arena is always fun, but good luck finding more than 2 or 3 other people a week willing to risk their Fight pilot egos in an actual somewhat fair contest.
Can't argue with that! I will say, you are always a good time...Green OR Red!   Just noticed your "signature" LOL   I got ya Step Sis LOL   You aren't my REAL Sister...my brother!  EWE  that made it worse LOL :rofl
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2022, 05:37:08 AM »
Can't argue with that! I will say, you are always a good time...Green OR Red!   Just noticed your "signature" LOL   I got ya Step Sis LOL   You aren't my REAL Sister...my brother!  EWE  that made it worse LOL :rofl

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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2022, 06:34:19 AM »
I'm more of a bomber nut, but yes I generally agree with the OP. Played extensively when AH2 came out.

I'm playing now after a long break, but having experienced what it once was with bombers, escorts, flying into a hornet's nest of enemies co-alt or higher at 20K-plus in a main arena of hundreds, today's arena is very lacking. If you couldn't find a fight, you sure as hell could create one back then. Miss it.

I just don't stick around as long in a session anymore. I'll play, but... yeah. :/

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Re: Can I vent ??
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2022, 07:12:01 AM »
Well I think y'all will be happy to hear that I've added my drop to the bucket. I subscribed yesterday, since I'm no longer a broke teenager, just an almost broke teenager.  :banana:
Loaded in on the Knights team, went in to help roll a field, but it was overwhelmed quickly, so I put my Pony back down. Saw a bomber radar contact across the map, so I boogied over there. Upped a Spit 14, climbed like a demon, turned out it was a formation of B-17s on a bombing run at 10,000 feet. Dizz and I tag teamed them, made quick work without any casualties.
Then I decided to get offensive, roaming to enemy territory. Long story short, I made the mistake of flying a full fuel Pony over enemy airspace, so Nox came up in his K4 and ended me.

Overall I'd say it's worth the sub even still with reduced pilots.  :cheers:
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Re: Can I vent ??
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2022, 07:22:40 AM »
Well I think y'all will be happy to hear that I've added my drop to the bucket. I subscribed yesterday, since I'm no longer a broke teenager, just an almost broke teenager.  :banana:
Loaded in on the Knights team, went in to help roll a field, but it was overwhelmed quickly, so I put my Pony back down. Saw a bomber radar contact across the map, so I boogied over there. Upped a Spit 14, climbed like a demon, turned out it was a formation of B-17s on a bombing run at 10,000 feet. Dizz and I tag teamed them, made quick work without any casualties.
Then I decided to get offensive, roaming to enemy territory. Long story short, I made the mistake of flying a full fuel Pony over enemy airspace, so Nox came up in his K4 and ended me.

Overall I'd say it's worth the sub even still with reduced pilots.  :cheers:
But you won't find me in a GV or turret anytime soon, furballing for life!

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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2022, 08:06:36 AM »
Well; to me anyways. That close nit family type of game (squad was always at the end for me a good if not the only reason to log on and give it my best to find a good fight! That "close knit family thing (game too mind you) fell off and out of the whole deal when we ended up having AHK 22!!! how many freaking versions of ww2 fighters do we need to have a good time flying at night??? nahaww. Im not ever not at all any more going to fight myself just to log in and try to find one of those fights that makes the whole night for me... LOL my life is just far too busy these days for the 3-4 hours a night anyways) Though I used to have one heck of a life that involved my Aces High fest every night!
I may or may not come back or find my second Life of my On line world is almost strictly AH all of the time. lol i doubt it. I am so rusty and the big part of "my on line life" has been dead gone and buried. :( ahh what the hell im sure those times of me being missed at night are long gone and over with!!! lol right?
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