Author Topic: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?  (Read 7161 times)

Offline CptTrips

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #75 on: July 10, 2022, 11:11:10 AM »
So your retort is to double down?

Yawn.  Try harder Trumper.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #76 on: July 10, 2022, 11:19:23 AM »
Yawn.  Try harder Trumper.

All anyone needs to do is let you be yourself.  I'm simply pointing out how little respect you have for yourself and this community.  It's pretty pathetic that you can't at least try to participate in conversations without dragging them into the ground. 

How you treat others isn't about them.  It is about you. 

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #77 on: July 10, 2022, 11:21:35 AM »
How you treat others isn't about them.  It is about you.


Anytime the Murse wants to talk sht to me he is going to get it shoved right back down his rotting throat.

Deal with it, Trumper.

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #78 on: July 10, 2022, 11:33:31 AM »

Anytime the Murse wants to talk sht to me he is going to get it shoved right back down his rotting throat.

Deal with it, Trumper.


I see you fully embraced the Milo move of accursing everyone who isn't impressed with your behavior as being a "trumper" and continuously trolling them.

Who is "the Murse"?  You are hard bent to "shove sht" down anyone's throat for any reason real or imaginary.  What I said is accurate.  Your behavior is about who you are.  There is no justifying bad behavior by accusing others of bad behavior. 


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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #79 on: July 10, 2022, 11:34:25 AM »
Who is "the Murse"? 

LoL.  OK Trumper.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #80 on: July 10, 2022, 07:54:01 PM »
Wow I really got to get a job or something
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #81 on: July 10, 2022, 08:32:21 PM »

Anytime the Murse wants to talk sht to me he is going to get it shoved right back down his rotting throat.

Deal with it, Trumper.

Lol he thinks making fun of men who are nurses is insulting  :rofl.  It’s been his tune for years.

He’s just irate his pig god Michael Moore has been wrong about so much no one can keep count anymore.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #82 on: July 10, 2022, 08:42:06 PM »
Lol he thinks making fun of men who are nurses is insulting  :rofl.  It’s been his tune for years.

He’s just irate his pig god Michael Moore has been wrong about so much no one can keep count anymore.


Gaylord, you are such a pathetic tool.

I've actually never seen a Michael Moore movie in my entire life.

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #83 on: July 10, 2022, 08:44:39 PM »

Gaylord, you are such a pathetic tool.

I've actually never seen a Michael Moore movie in my entire life.

 :rofl

Sure sure, wipe the Moore drip off your chins and stop lying.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #84 on: July 10, 2022, 08:56:00 PM »
:rofl

Sure sure, wipe the Moore drip off your chins and stop lying.

LoL.  Go eat a pack of dks Candy Stripper.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #85 on: July 10, 2022, 11:12:44 PM »
How is UA in an unwinnable position?  If anything, it looks to me that Putin has stuck his foot in way too far and his best case scenario is a pyrrhic victory.
Unwinnable regarding Crimea peninsula and probably the separatist areas. Because Russia is not going to let go of Crimea, they’re just not. There’s nothing they won’t do to keep it.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2022, 05:25:44 AM »
Unwinnable regarding Crimea peninsula and probably the separatist areas. Because Russia is not going to let go of Crimea, they’re just not. There’s nothing they won’t do to keep it.

That is probably true.  War isn't a board game in that winning only generally happens when your opponent can no longer continue fighting.  Some people think that once one side achieves certain objectives the war is magically over.  Once Russia started the war, UA gets a vote too.   

Likewise, the win conditions for UA are when Russia decides it needs to negotiate because it can't really continue and the options for UA are not likely to improve if they don't reach some sort of agreement at that point.

Just like war is politics, victory is consensus that going forward is unlikely to yield much better results.

When you say winning is impossible the question is what winning conditions are and to what degree.  So, I don't see how we can say winning is impossible for either side until we understand what winning means to either side.  Most of the time winning the best possible outcome given the circumstances and the circumstances are still dynamic.  UA lost ground and took high casualties in the Donetsk pocket recently but gained ground in the Karkiv and Kerson fronts.  They knocked out upwards of 40 ammo dumps, Command centers, large barracks and other high value targets in just the last week alone.  They have been conducting a building offensive near Kerson that is still ramping up.  So, they are not out of the fight at this point. 

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2022, 06:41:17 AM »
Well consider your news sources, everyday the Ukrainian news reports on their victories yet the Russians keep gaining territory. They don’t talk about how they’re loosing 1,000 fighters a day etc.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2022, 06:54:33 AM »
Well consider your news sources, everyday the Ukrainian news reports on their victories yet the Russians keep gaining territory. They don’t talk about how they’re loosing 1,000 fighters a day etc.

I spend a lot of time monitoring the UA situation daily.  There are a lot of biased pieces of information being put forth and you do need to take everything with a grain of salt.  That goes for all sides where information is coming from.  Both sides got beat up in the Donbass pocket and now that battle is over.  My point to you above is that you can't say something is unwinnable if you don't define what winning actually means.  In this case, neither side is likely to achieve their best case scenario of what winning can be.   

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #89 on: July 11, 2022, 07:23:29 AM »
Well consider your news sources, everyday the Ukrainian news reports on their victories yet the Russians keep gaining territory. They don’t talk about how they’re loosing 1,000 fighters a day etc.

Our newscast are one sided, exaggerated to make excuses for the potato head admin and bias to try to make them look like heroes..

No questions to corrupt joe on an exit plan...no one cares as to be patriotic is to support this unwinnable war..as winning has been defined as to defeat Russia or at minimum withdrawal from occupied lands...otherwise you're called names like some are doing here...

Longer it drags on the more likely it will escalate into more than the proxy war it is today

Just don't trust the government to make the correct decisions anymore...

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