Author Topic: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?  (Read 12884 times)

Offline Chris79

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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #120 on: December 08, 2022, 04:24:36 PM »
You would think with the availability of drones, homemade terror weapons wouldn't be to difficult to piece together...

An organized attack on multiple targets at the same time would make it interesting quickly

The terror such attacks would create would crash the markets just as if it were 9/11 imo

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It would be far worse I think.


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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #121 on: December 08, 2022, 05:06:24 PM »
You would think with the availability of drones, homemade terror weapons wouldn't be to difficult to piece together...

An organized attack on multiple targets at the same time would make it interesting quickly

The terror such attacks would create would crash the markets just as if it were 9/11 imo

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they're not. anyone with any basic knowledge can do what you mentioned above. thankfully we're not a country full of extremists and terrorists. sadly though it would seem that many extremists and terrorists are entering the country illegally. and they have said knowledge.

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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #122 on: December 08, 2022, 05:19:34 PM »
We (NZ) just chucked a guy in jail under a charge of sabotage : https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/478077/who-is-graham-philip-the-first-new-zealander-convicted-of-sabotage

Guys a bit of a nutter, his brother was convicted of murder and cannibalism.

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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #123 on: December 09, 2022, 09:33:59 AM »
Don’t trust a cheap generator below 12kw to run a well pump without damaging it.

My home gen is a Generac 24kw on propane.
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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #124 on: December 09, 2022, 09:51:40 AM »
$180 per 24 hours or maybe more.   


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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #125 on: December 09, 2022, 10:12:21 AM »
If the outages are of any length,  the majority of backups will become useless as fuel is limited to the majority imo

Those running noisy generators will be forced to protect them with deadly force within 2 weeks if the fuel last that long

Imagine those solar panels and the battery systems in the garages under them will quickly become targets also

It would make the 2020 summer of love look like a picnic

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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #126 on: December 09, 2022, 11:33:59 AM »
That’s when a defensible cabin on a hazardous road would be prudent. 

If it gets that bad, cash and gold are useless…..so you barter.   
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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #127 on: December 09, 2022, 11:50:22 AM »
$180 per 24 hours or maybe more.

More like $131 per day (based on $3.29 gal). Really less as my home is pretty efficient. I really like that now my whole home is on a surge protector. I still have a battery backup on my main computer. If the power drops the generator starts instantly but runs a few seconds to get the power clean at 60Hz before switching over. The norm for this is 8 seconds. When the area power comes back up, the generator keeps running for a short bit while making sure the grid power is clean and stable, then it shuts off.
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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #128 on: December 09, 2022, 03:14:14 PM »
If the national power grid were down for a month, I think a lot of people would die.

Right away, there would be rioting, looting, arson, and breakdown of law and safety in numerous cities.

Folks in bad shape in hospitals and some who need specialized treatment or medicine might die.

Within a couple weeks, there might be people in arid regions dying from lack of water, depending on how well organized are the groups that have generators and access to water.

There would be an economic crash that could last to well after restoration of power.

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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #129 on: December 09, 2022, 03:24:36 PM »
If the national power grid were down for a month, I think a lot of people would die.

Right away, there would be rioting, looting, arson, and breakdown of law and safety in numerous cities.

Folks in bad shape in hospitals and some who need specialized treatment or medicine might die.

Within a couple weeks, there might be people in arid regions dying from lack of water, depending on how well organized are the groups that have generators and access to water.

There would be an economic crash that could last to well after restoration of power.

It would definitely thin the city folks.
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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #130 on: December 09, 2022, 04:07:04 PM »


Right away, there would be rioting, looting, arson, and breakdown of law and safety in numerous cities.


That is already happening in certain cities that still have power
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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #131 on: December 09, 2022, 04:26:22 PM »
Now go plug in all of your fancy EV's and see how much things improve. 

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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #132 on: December 09, 2022, 10:48:30 PM »
My home gen is a Generac 24kw on propane.

 my house is small. like less than 1,000 square ft small. i can run almost my whole house on a 5500w portable. i keep at least 1 vehicle with a full tank of gas at home, so i've generally got anywhere from 20 to 50  gallons of gasoline to run it. it'll be noisy though, which would force me to probably have to defend my home. i can run it inside the garage(separated from the house) to minimize heard noise. it's not automatic though. i have to go switch the mains off then fire this up.

 lets all hope this doesn't come to fruition, 'cause if it does, i don't really care who thinks they're "billybadass"........not a single one of us is truly ready for something like this to happen. some are more prepared than others.....but it's gonna be soooooo much worse than anyone expects or thinks it's gonna be.
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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #133 on: December 10, 2022, 12:06:52 AM »
Now go plug in all of your fancy EV's and see how much things improve. 

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Re: National power grid down one month......Lord of the Flies?
« Reply #134 on: December 10, 2022, 12:30:08 AM »
gas pumps work on electricity.  no advantage over ev.

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