Author Topic: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say  (Read 5502 times)

Offline perdue3

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4672
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2022, 05:50:06 PM »
If that trend continues, it could be up another foot in 120 years?

The rate has increased from just over an inch per 20 years to 2 inches per 20 years. So if the rate continues to increase at its current pace, it will be much higher than a foot more in 120 years. If the rate holds as current, yes, 12 inches in 120 years.
C.O. Kommando Nowotny 

FlyKommando.com

 

Offline Elfie

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6142
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2022, 08:00:14 PM »
Who cares? The earth has been far hotter in it's history than it is now or will be in the foreseeable future.

For most of earth's history there have been no polar ice caps. Etc etc etc.
Corkyjr on country jumping:
In the end you should be thankful for those players like us who switch to try and help keep things even because our willingness to do so, helps a more selfish, I want it my way player, get to fly his latewar uber ride.

Offline Arlo

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 24759
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2022, 08:01:27 PM »
The concern is human habitability, silly goose.

Offline bj229r

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6732
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2022, 08:02:51 PM »
What amount of warming are we talking about here?
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers

http://www.flamewarriors.net/forum/

Offline MiloMorai

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6864
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2022, 10:16:45 PM »
Who cares? The earth has been far hotter in it's history than it is now or will be in the foreseeable future.

For most of earth's history there have been no polar ice caps. Etc etc etc.

Was the atmosphere breathable?

Polar ice caps also serve as reservoirs for huge amounts of the earth's water . Geologists suggest that three-quarters of the world's fresh water is frozen at the North and South Pole. Most of this freshwater ice is in the Southern Hemisphere. The Antarctic ice cap alone contains over 90% of the world's glacial ice, sometimes in huge sheets over 2.5 mi (4 km) deep and averaging 1.5 mi (2 km) deep across the continent. It has been estimated that enough water is locked up in Antarctica to raise sea levels around the globe over 200 ft (61 m), drowning most of the world's major cities, destroying much of the world's food-producing capacity, and ending civilization.

Although the polar ice caps have been in existence for millions of years, scientists disagree over exactly how long they have survived in their present form. It is generally agreed that the polar cap north of the Arctic Circle, which covers the Arctic Ocean, has undergone contraction and expansion through some 26 different glaciations in just the past few million years. Parts of the Arctic have been covered by the polar ice cap for at least the last five million years, with estimates ranging up to 15 million. The Antarctic ice cap is more controversial; although many scientists believe extensive ice has existed there for 15 million years, others suggest that volcanic activity on the western half of the continent it covers causes the ice to decay, and the current south polar ice cap is therefore no more than about three million years old.

At least five times since the formation of the earth, because of changes in global climate , the polar ice has expanded north and south toward the equator and has stayed there for at least a million years. The earliest of these known ice ages was some two billion years ago, during the Huronian Epoch of the Precambrian Era. The most recent ice age began about 1.7 million years ago in the Pleistocene Epoch . It was characterized by a number of fluctuations in North polar ice, some of which expanded over much of modern North America and Europe , covered up to half of the existing continents, and measured as much as 1.8 mi (3 km) deep in some places. These glacial expansions locked up even more water, dropping sea levels worldwide by more than 30 ft (100 m). Animal species that had adapted to cold weather , like the mammoth, thrived in the polar conditions of the Pleistocene glaciations, and their ranges stretched south into what is now the southern United States.

Offline -gg-

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1902
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2022, 09:33:45 AM »
I did some quick research on this glacier last night. It turns out that there is no consensus that the glacier will break up, but if it does break up they think it would be over the next 200 to 1,000 years.

So if it breaks up it's not going to suddenly just break apart.

And I've seen the same article popping up. I think it's just more of the same chicken little, Doom and gloom that some organizations like to pedal.

Icecreamonmars.com. ICOM for short.

Offline -gg-

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1902
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2022, 09:36:24 AM »
Was the atmosphere breathable?

Polar ice caps also serve as reservoirs for huge amounts of the earth's water . Geologists suggest that three-quarters of the world's fresh water is frozen at the North and South Pole. Most of this freshwater ice is in the Southern Hemisphere. The Antarctic ice cap alone contains over 90% of the world's glacial ice, sometimes in huge sheets over 2.5 mi (4 km) deep and averaging 1.5 mi (2 km) deep across the continent. It has been estimated that enough water is locked up in Antarctica to raise sea levels around the globe over 200 ft (61 m), drowning most of the world's major cities, destroying much of the world's food-producing capacity, and ending civilization.

Although the polar ice caps have been in existence for millions of years, scientists disagree over exactly how long they have survived in their present form. It is generally agreed that the polar cap north of the Arctic Circle, which covers the Arctic Ocean, has undergone contraction and expansion through some 26 different glaciations in just the past few million years. Parts of the Arctic have been covered by the polar ice cap for at least the last five million years, with estimates ranging up to 15 million. The Antarctic ice cap is more controversial; although many scientists believe extensive ice has existed there for 15 million years, others suggest that volcanic activity on the western half of the continent it covers causes the ice to decay, and the current south polar ice cap is therefore no more than about three million years old.

At least five times since the formation of the earth, because of changes in global climate , the polar ice has expanded north and south toward the equator and has stayed there for at least a million years. The earliest of these known ice ages was some two billion years ago, during the Huronian Epoch of the Precambrian Era. The most recent ice age began about 1.7 million years ago in the Pleistocene Epoch . It was characterized by a number of fluctuations in North polar ice, some of which expanded over much of modern North America and Europe , covered up to half of the existing continents, and measured as much as 1.8 mi (3 km) deep in some places. These glacial expansions locked up even more water, dropping sea levels worldwide by more than 30 ft (100 m). Animal species that had adapted to cold weather , like the mammoth, thrived in the polar conditions of the Pleistocene glaciations, and their ranges stretched south into what is now the southern United States.

I think it's a good thing that the glaciers retreated from the equator.

Icecreamonmars.com. ICOM for short.

Offline RotBaron

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3543
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2022, 09:52:22 AM »
Was the atmosphere breathable?

Polar ice caps also serve as reservoirs for huge amounts of the earth's water . Geologists suggest that three-quarters of the world's fresh water is frozen at the North and South Pole. Most of this freshwater ice is in the Southern Hemisphere.

And??

Are you planning on transporting that fresh water to continents  :rofl
They're casting their bait over there, see?

Offline MiloMorai

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6864
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2022, 11:07:00 AM »
And??

Are you planning on transporting that fresh water to continents  :rofl

Have read of bergs being towed to near places where fresh water was needed. The berg is then harvested.

Offline MiloMorai

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6864
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2022, 11:07:35 AM »
I think it's a good thing that the glaciers retreated from the equator.

Continue showing your ignorance.

Offline mikeWe9a

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 261
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2022, 01:32:46 PM »
Why are those planes that landed in WW2 in greenland deeper in the ice every time an expedition goes out there?
Glaciers grow at the top due to snow, and then compress that snow into ice due to the weight of the snow on top.  So that drives the planes deeper.  At the bottom or sides, ice may melt due to coming into contact with warm water (if the glacier extends to the ocean), or just be forced outward at the bottom by the enormous pressure of the ice above.  So the natural progression of ice (and anything in/on it) in an active glacier is to sink as snow/ice is added above it and ice at the bottom is removed.  Anything in the glacier will eventually either be dropped into the sediment at the bottom or expelled with ice it is trapped in, presuming it isn't crushed or pulverized first, though this can take some time- the oldest ice in Greenland glaciers are estimated to be over 100,000 years old.

Mike

Offline mikeWe9a

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 261
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2022, 02:18:11 PM »
Have read of bergs being towed to near places where fresh water was needed. The berg is then harvested.
I've read of PLANS to do so - it has never been done as a source of fresh water.  It HAS been done commercially (using very small icebergs) as a source of "glacier" or "iceberg" water, however.  You can buy it bottled on Amazon, for around $35/liter, or $140/gallon.  It is a luxury or novelty product, not a viable supply of drinking water.

Mike

Offline TryHard

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 409
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2022, 05:33:07 PM »
Once again if only we used air conditioners to cool down the planet instead of our pretentious homes this would all be fixed  :salute

 :bhead :bhead :bhead


Offline -gg-

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1902
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2022, 06:32:52 PM »
Continue showing your ignorance.

so you don't think it's a good thing that north America is no longer covered by ice?

Icecreamonmars.com. ICOM for short.

Offline MiloMorai

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6864
Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #74 on: September 14, 2022, 06:45:39 PM »
so you don't think it's a good thing that north America is no longer covered by ice?

The equator and N America are quite far apart, about 1700 miles from the tip of Florida.

You really are clueless about what the ice does for the Earth, aren't you.