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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2022, 07:15:02 PM »
That's the last ice age. There were more than one (I guess climate changes sometimes) and ice once reached the equator.

I think it's a good thing the ice retreated.

but even in your map, how do you think Canada and Europe (and Asia) were doing under the ice? Good thing the climate got warmer.
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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2022, 07:21:39 PM »
716.5 million years ago and lasted ~5 million years.

How many humans around then?

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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2022, 07:32:50 PM »
Probably not many humans would be around today unless that ice retreated. So it's a good thing it did.

I wonder what cause  all that warming back then?
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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2022, 08:02:46 PM »
716.5 million years ago and lasted ~5 million years.

How many humans around then?


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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2022, 09:35:16 PM »

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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #81 on: September 15, 2022, 01:40:12 PM »
Sea ice is frozen water that forms, expands, and melts in the ocean. It is different from icebergs, glaciers, ice sheets, and ice shelves, which originate on land. For the most part, sea ice expands during winter months and melts during summer months, but in certain regions, some sea ice remains year-round. About 15 percent of the world's oceans are covered by sea ice during part of the year.

While sea ice exists primarily in the polar regions, it influences the global climate. The bright surface of sea ice reflects a lot of sunlight out into the atmosphere and, importantly, back into space. Because this solar energy "bounces back" and is not absorbed into the ocean, temperatures nearer the poles remain cool relative to the equator.

When warming temperatures gradually melt sea ice over time, fewer bright surfaces are available to reflect sunlight back into the atmosphere. More solar energy is absorbed at the surface and ocean temperatures rise. This begins a cycle of warming and melting. Warmer water temperatures delay ice growth in the fall and winter, and the ice melts faster the following spring, exposing dark ocean waters for a longer period the following summer.

Changes in the amount of sea ice can disrupt normal ocean circulation, thereby leading to changes in global climate.  Even a small increase in temperature can lead to greater warming over time, making the polar regions the most sensitive areas to climate change on Earth.

Did you know?

Sea ice also affects the movement of ocean waters. The ocean is salty and when sea ice forms, much of the salt is pushed into the ocean water below the ice, although some salt may become trapped in small pockets between ice crystals. Water below sea ice has a higher concentration of salt and is denser than the surrounding ocean water, so it sinks and moves from the surface. In this way, sea ice contributes to the circulation of the global ocean conveyor belt. Cold, dense polar water descends from the surface and circulates along the ocean bottom toward the equator, while warm water from mid-depth to the surface travels from the equator toward the poles.

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sea-ice-climate.html#:~:text=While%20sea%20ice%20exists%20primarily%20in%20the%20polar,the%20poles%20remain%20cool%20relative%20to%20the%20equator.


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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #82 on: September 15, 2022, 04:20:33 PM »
Are there any significant long periods of time when the amount of sea ice did not change?

So, for instance, were there any centuries where the amount of sea ice was totally static? If so, how was that verified?
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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #83 on: September 15, 2022, 04:36:33 PM »
How many things died because glaciers melted?
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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #84 on: September 15, 2022, 04:57:21 PM »
How many things died because glaciers melted?

I would say almost all the creatures except for 1 pair of each.  it did rain for 40 days and 40 nights. since all earth was covered by water don't you think all glaciers melted? and that was a few thousand years ago.


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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #85 on: September 15, 2022, 06:56:28 PM »
I would say almost all the creatures except for 1 pair of each.  it did rain for 40 days and 40 nights. since all earth was covered by water don't you think all glaciers melted? and that was a few thousand years ago.


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so you think the glaciers suddenly melted within about 150 days and flooded everything?
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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #86 on: September 15, 2022, 08:25:15 PM »
Near the end of the last Ice Age 8,000 years ago, an ice dam on North America's east coast broke, releasing a torrent of fresh water seven times more voluminous than all the Great Lakes combined. It all rushed into the Atlantic Ocean over the course of only a few months.

At around the same time, ocean circulation worldwide slowed to a crawl, plunging Europe into a second ice age that lasted centuries.

Scientists have long suspected the two events were linked, and now they have the evidence from sediment core samples to prove it.
https://www.livescience.com/873-bursting-ice-dam-flooded-ancient-ocean.html

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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #87 on: September 15, 2022, 08:55:14 PM »
Near the end of the last Ice Age 8,000 years ago, an ice dam on North America's east coast broke, releasing a torrent of fresh water seven times more voluminous than all the Great Lakes combined. It all rushed into the Atlantic Ocean over the course of only a few months.

At around the same time, ocean circulation worldwide slowed to a crawl, plunging Europe into a second ice age that lasted centuries.

Scientists have long suspected the two events were linked, and now they have the evidence from sediment core samples to prove it.
https://www.livescience.com/873-bursting-ice-dam-flooded-ancient-ocean.html

do the common theme is that global warming has always been good and cooling has been devastating.
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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #88 on: September 15, 2022, 08:59:15 PM »
Changes in the amount of sea ice can disrupt normal ocean circulation, thereby leading to changes in global climate.  Even a small increase in temperature can lead to greater warming over time, making the polar regions the most sensitive areas to climate change on Earth.

They're casting their bait over there, see?

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Re: "Doomsday glacier" hanging on "by its fingernails," scientists say
« Reply #89 on: September 15, 2022, 09:07:29 PM »
so you think the glaciers suddenly melted within about 150 days and flooded everything?

40 days and 40 nights of rain.


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