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Offline mERv

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HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« on: December 22, 2022, 11:43:12 PM »
If you support this please +1

If you do not support this -1

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?KNights currently with 20 eny on a Thursday with 40 players in the arena and only a +5 real advantage of players

AFTER A DOUBLE TEAM FOR 4 HOURS

BISHOPS MASSED LOGGED AFTER I SMACKED THEM AROUND ENOUGH TO LOG LEAVING THE ENTIRE GAME HANGING


PLEASE REMOVE ENY SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED TO FIX IT

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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2022, 12:18:35 AM »
I complain because for the first time in a long time there are 13 active people on squad vox right now.

Everyone is getting hit with eny on vox

its talked about

its like man the game is dying

DALE please just remove the eny and dont do it for a certain period of time

If the maps roll let em roll

please do not restrict us because of your problem any longer

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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2022, 03:43:34 AM »
if your as good as you think you are, then a lower ENY aircraft will not make a difference.

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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2022, 08:42:07 AM »
.....and running in a gang/horde of 13. Why should ENY bother you?

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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2022, 09:31:16 AM »
I hate ENY.  Hate it. Hate it. Hate it.  But I know why it is there.  I understand that it addresses a problem, and Aces High would be worse without it.  So I live with it.  It is inconvenient, but ENY is there for a reason.
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2022, 09:45:09 AM »
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2022, 09:55:09 AM »
+1

Two of the nays thus far don’t play anymore, correct? If so, you may have a fuzzy memory of how much ENY drastically changes when #’s are low.

Also, do you guys recall the plane set that is available with 20 ENY? How about 25 ENY? Is that what you’d continue to pay a subscription for if you dealt with this nearly every night as many do that can’t play during prime time. 

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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2022, 10:00:36 AM »
2 or 3 skilled and knowledgeable players can stop a horde of 10-15 players, log in at night and watch it routinely happen.

How? Anticipate it where is next, run Jeep to town, drop supps, and then spawn a resupping M3 in and hide. The other two up ftrs and gain alt or one gets to town in with or M-8 and hides.

^ this routinely happens to Knights because their horde base takes are poorly coordinated (as they are notorious for).
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2022, 12:56:42 PM »
+1

However,


PLEASE REMOVE ENY SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED TO FIX IT

Thanks Dale :cheers:

HT did try to fix it with the what I guess people are calling the "mercenary" system.

I personally think there needs to be a balancing system in place but not at the cost of paying and playing customers.

The dilemma HT is faced with is trying to guess what is going to cost him the least amount of players Eny or unbalanced sides/Hoards.

Personally I think Unlimited side switching or at least giving free side switches while under ENY would alleviate some of the burn.

The problem with the mercenary system is it only caters to the lone wolf solo player and can still leave you high and dry on the wrong side when it's over with, Oh .... and it doesn't work as ENY is still a major problem.

Disabling ENY when numbers drop to low numbers was an Idea, So is having ENY only effect perk rides ..... The smallest side gets free perked rides the middle country pays full price and the largest pays double when ENY is in effect.

And lastly for the nay sayers who want to keep everything the same, Are you trying to give AH a Darwin award?

If you haven't noticed THE GAME YOU LOVE IS DYING! It's runs the risk of going the way of Air Warrior and AH has already lasted longer then Air Warrior did.

The game faces some pretty stiff competition from the likes of Warthunder Il2 DCS and the like. AH doesn't bring in enough new players and it doesn't catch players on their way from Warthunder to Il2 and DCS.

The community can only keep AH on life support for so long.

Personally I think HT can probably pump a little extra life out of the existing game engine by lower subscription rates and/or offering annual subscriptions at a reduced cost like say $120 +- per year, for least long enough to get a new engine built.
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2022, 01:43:08 PM »
0 - it never affects some of us

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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2022, 01:57:05 PM »
.....and running in a gang/horde of 13. Why should ENY bother you?
Obviously you didn't think that statement through but hey, being one of HiTech's sheep I expect no different.
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2022, 02:00:31 PM »
if your as good as you think you are, then a lower ENY aircraft will not make a difference.
DIdn't see anything in the post about how good he was. regardless of your coy attitude he is completely right. ENY would work however if it didn't count the tower campers.
Case in point, i have been on with 16 people in the tower, eny was 20+ two of us defending a base attacked by 4 f4u-4s one bomber and 1 m3 vs our two g-14s. Yeah real equal playing field!
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2022, 02:07:38 PM »
2 or 3 skilled and knowledgeable players can stop a horde of 10-15 players, log in at night and watch it routinely happen.

How? Anticipate it where is next, run Jeep to town, drop supps, and then spawn a resupping M3 in and hide. The other two up ftrs and gain alt or one gets to town in with or M-8 and hides.

^ this routinely happens to Knights because their horde base takes are poorly coordinated (as they are notorious for).
not always that simple, it usually not only one base that has to be considered. Often eny is because of tower campers and 6 guys can't defend two fronts, much less try and intercept and sit around waiting while another base gets rolled. Besides that,  three guys trying to stop 2 or3 m3s, with 2 or 3 alt monkeys on over watch and no veh hanger, not possible when the over watch is perk birds and you can't even up anything but early war fighters only. Slow, sroc, poor armament, low range ect Heck one night couldn't even up a carrier plane to defend a port.
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2022, 02:13:21 PM »


HT did try to fix it with the what I guess people are calling the "mercenary" system.

I personally think there needs to be a balancing system in place but not at the cost of paying and playing customers.

The dilemma HT is faced with is trying to guess what is going to cost him the least amount of players Eny or unbalanced sides/Hoards.

Personally I think Unlimited side switching or at least giving free side switches while under ENY would alleviate some of the burn.

The problem with the mercenary system is it only caters to the lone wolf solo player and can still leave you high and dry on the wrong side when it's over with, Oh .... and it doesn't work as ENY is still a major problem.

Disabling ENY when numbers drop to low numbers was an Idea, So is having ENY only effect perk rides ..... The smallest side gets free perked rides the middle country pays full price and the largest pays double when ENY is in effect.

And lastly for the nay sayers who want to keep everything the same, Are you trying to give AH a Darwin award?

If you haven't noticed THE GAME YOU LOVE IS DYING! It's runs the risk of going the way of Air Warrior and AH has already lasted longer then Air Warrior did.

The game faces some pretty stiff competition from the likes of Warthunder Il2 DCS and the like. AH doesn't bring in enough new players and it doesn't catch players on their way from Warthunder to Il2 and DCS.

The community can only keep AH on life support for so long.

Personally I think HT can probably pump a little extra life out of the existing game engine by lower subscription rates and/or offering annual subscriptions at a reduced cost like say $120 +- per year, for least long enough to get a new engine built.
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solution, but he wont do it, about the 5th time i have offered it up. If the eny would not count tower campers or have an idle timeout kick (say 15 minutes), it would more accurately do what it is meant to do, balance the action.
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Re: HTC PLEASE DISCONTINUE ENY
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2022, 02:19:45 PM »
for least long enough to get a new engine built.

Vulcan?

Do you think Vulcan will make any material difference to the player numbers trend?  Cross platform?  I guess there are probably 15-20 hardcore flight enthusiasts that might be on a mac.  You might pull in a couple of them. ;) 

I'm sure there will be performance and visual effect improvements.  I'm not sure if I would expect new art work or models.  Fundamental design choices in the terrain implementation  make it unlikely to end up looking all that different without a redesign.  It's flexible and can be player created, but the trade-off is a certain level of simplicity and blocky-ness, like building a world out of modular lego instead of hand sculpting out of clay. 

Do you think an new polygon rendering pipeline will fundamentally change the course of the game if you keep the same monetization and gameplay models?

I have to admit it's been a number of years since I played in the Melee and don't remember how ENY worked completely.  Could it be possible to tweak it so that it never takes away aircraft from the high side, but starts to give free perk planes to the low side? 

It's always better to give than take. ;)



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