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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #600 on: March 07, 2024, 04:44:57 PM »
Stig is in the Jug these days.


I'm very good 1 v 1 in a 51 (I was better with my MSSW than this VKB--I need looser springs for when I'm hanging on the buffet/horn).   The problem is once you get it slow you are going to be stuck there for a very long time and almost always get picked.  It simply does not accelerate well with engine power alone.

About the only way I can get 1 v 1s in the thing is to arrange them late at night with the lower numbers.
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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #601 on: March 07, 2024, 06:54:01 PM »
Stig is in the Jug these days.


I'm very good 1 v 1 in a 51 (I was better with my MSSW than this VKB--I need looser springs for when I'm hanging on the buffet/horn).   The problem is once you get it slow you are going to be stuck there for a very long time and almost always get picked.  It simply does not accelerate well with engine power alone.

About the only way I can get 1 v 1s in the thing is to arrange them late at night with the lower numbers.

Yep, not a wise to hang more than 2-3 turns. If you don’t extend you’re just becoming a pinnate.  Yet, I always end up in 3-5 to 1. Builds character I guess. But since I don’t worry about points I might fly mire recklessly.

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #602 on: March 08, 2024, 01:13:03 PM »
Lifetime stats are what I want to see.
lusch made a program so you can find that information out.
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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #603 on: March 08, 2024, 01:22:10 PM »
lusch made a program so you can find that information out.

You should come back. Need some actual competition in here.
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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #604 on: March 08, 2024, 01:28:40 PM »
I agree with this. Seems there are many "picker" pilots and squads these days.

If you're able to run down one of these "picker" rocket planes usually you'll find that most are very lacking in ACM abilities. I've found that high ponies are usually no threat unless you get tangled up in a fight and even then they weren't that good a actually hitting you on their 500mph passes that were usually followed by extending a sector.

I was wary of the low ponies however as those guys tended to know how to fight.

well said, and sadly this will be a somewhat long reply.

Most of the high alt monkeys and cannon birds tend to run when u get co-alt. Take for example the D-9, it is a hunting machine not a knife fighter despite the great roll rate. any smart (at that moment lol) d-9 pilot will extend for turning room and re-engage or simply find another target. They are best deployed as a picking platform, That's why you see them often trailing a horde or coming in high against a lower enemy. IMHO the best fighter in the game is the F4u-4 if it can't outrun you it can out turn you. If it can't catch you, it can climb faster and wait for you to come back, a great machine for hunting 20k doras and ponys. A contender for high alt fighting is the Jug

Down low the spit 16 is great for taking on a dora because it too has a great roll rate and any spit an easily out-turn (sustained) a dora, pony, tempest etc. That is why those aircraft tend to run off when faced with a co-alt spit, unless they know (through their discord channel via their mate flying on the enemy side calling out the target's names). See this in action when you see "the fast birds" cleaning up conscripts like crazy if its not vulching that is. The spit is not a noob plane as these "cannon guys" will try to discredit it. It is an excellent plane but can be beaten. A German ace killed over a 100 of them with a BF-109 in the Battle of Britain and the later Normandy Invasion.

I have seen a few youtube videos where one player (I won't even call him a pilot) is talking with a buddy who is on discord (or similar) with him and who is flying on the opposite side, calling out the names of the pilots taking off or chasing him. Knowing who you are fighting is a HUGE advantage and in this case is cheating. This same player has also had others "join his aircraft" to watch his six and give him flight guidance while passed out from a pilot wound, All in the name of "High kill count" The funny part, this guy has the gall or lack of wisdom to post these videos usually entitled "I killed so and so x times" as a pathetic display of ego. His being killed is always "screen to black" and yes I have killed this dude 1 v 1 after his 200 rant of "duel me."

However, I won't do this as I have seen his duels and somehow his ride is always 50mph+ faster than his opponent flying straight and level to the merge. Anyway back to the fight. I came across his LA-7 in my spit, I was co-alt so he turned and ran, instead of chasing him i turned away knowing as I turned and he would turn back to run me down in the faster ride, so I turned back to face him, now he is committed due to range and so we dueled and I cut him in half after three merges with a right rudder deflection shot. I was lucky his picker buddies weren't close enough to save him. Before he comments in here to try and discredit this, there was no one else within 5k and it was him and me only. Honestly though it could have gone the other way as well.  Anyway I am tending to rant here, point is many of these cannon jockeys and alt-monkeys either ho or run when you are co-alt with them and when forced to actually fight are like anyone else, they can be outflown lol.

Tip1 - Kill the high fast LA-7s, Tempests, Ponies, F4Us and D-9s first, work together -they do. If not they will pick you or if on your team "clear your 12"
Tip2 - Film everything (it doesn't hurt frame rate "ctrl-r" or set to auto) and set aside time after flight to watch learn their tactics. If something suspect happens, you have the film. If there was nothing of interest, just don't save it when you land or get shot.
Tip 3 For god's sake quite upping from a field they have control over - you are just helping their kill count hurting yours. Go to a nearby field get a fast bird, meet them co-alt and they will leave, works every time.
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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #605 on: March 08, 2024, 01:56:09 PM »
It's always funny to see Thor write a paranoid rant about planes going 50+ mph faster than his. Mashing the rudder to get shots does that lil buddy.

Some things never change.
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nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #606 on: March 08, 2024, 03:15:06 PM »
It's always funny to see Thor write a paranoid rant about planes going 50+ mph faster than his. Mashing the rudder to get shots does that lil buddy.

Some things never change.

Funny, diaster didn't mention the name of a player he was writing about but someone seemed to recognize himself.

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #607 on: March 08, 2024, 03:48:39 PM »
Funny, diaster didn't mention the name of a player he was writing about but someone seemed to recognize himself.

I don't think my reply mentioned anything about anyone, except the poster having paranoia of thinking planes go faster for X players. You may want to re-read that reply.
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nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
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vs Shane: 30-11

KOTH Wins: 6, Egos Broken: 1000+

Mmmmm... tears.

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #608 on: March 08, 2024, 04:43:01 PM »
Skyyr

I am curious do you up or down elevator to be able to climb like you do or is your e state always better than your previous maneuvers might indicate

You clean my clock way more than I do yours..

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #609 on: March 08, 2024, 04:57:00 PM »
Skyyr

I am curious do you up or down elevator to be able to climb like you do or is your e state always better than your previous maneuvers might indicate

You clean my clock way more than I do yours..

Understand if you don't want to let your secrets out

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The up/down elevator trim (or any variation of such) has no practical effect on climbing.

I try to always mask my E-state by flying indirect angles at the merge.

You likely know these things, but I'll iterate over them briefly so that the answer makes a bit more sense.

1) The most important aspect in a fight is the merge. The merge dictates the tactics you'll use in the fight.
2) Therefore, energy state is the most important practical factor that you can control.
3) The second most practical factor is the aircraft you're flying; but, once the fight has begun, you can't change this. This simply dictates the set(s) of tactics you have at your disposal.

If you're flying dissimilar aircraft, then the energy state isn't about airspeed at the merge, because your aircraft will bleed speed differently; therefore, energy state is about your airspeed and how you manage it when when you or opponent obtains (or could obtain) a guns solution.
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198 - 204
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nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
A few moments later...

vs Shane: 30-11

KOTH Wins: 6, Egos Broken: 1000+

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #610 on: March 08, 2024, 05:45:49 PM »
Having outstanding accuracy to boot  :airplane:

Thanks for explaining the e part

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #611 on: March 08, 2024, 08:33:52 PM »
Most of the high alt monkeys and cannon birds tend to run when u get co-alt. Take for example the D-9, it is a hunting machine not a knife fighter despite the great roll rate. any smart (at that moment lol) d-9 pilot will extend for turning room and re-engage or simply find another target.

I used to fly the D9 or 262 and hunt the pickers.
One of my favorite was when I ran down a tempest with a 262 and he didn't expect me to slow down and turnfight him 1vs1.
I got a lucky shot an he died.
Another was when I chased down a pony on deck with a D9. He demonstrated why he was a member of one of the picker squads by flailing around for a minute before he died.

I've found that I could beat the majority of ponies in a stall fight on the deck using the climb rate but fighting anybody with skill in a pony was going to be tough.

There are some decent D9 pilots that are not pickers but they are also very good at keeping the d9 at corner and managing their energy (much better then I am) I get impatient and get myself killed lol.

I agree that the f4u4 is great other then being a gas hog with a single fuel tank that didn't seem to be very durable. lolz

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #612 on: March 09, 2024, 03:39:45 AM »
^ My dogfighting skills are bit below nonexistent, but sometimes even I succeed to down a picker. Few times I've been genuinely wondering, why con in front of me makes practically no evasive actions. That has normally happened in a chase at deck, after con has picked our field, tries to run and I have taken D9 or 109 K4 for speed.

I'd like to fly more with early and mid-war kites in MA, but it is pretty frustrating against überkites dropping down from stratosphere and having in level speed advantage of a hare against tortoise.

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #613 on: March 09, 2024, 07:16:10 AM »
i wish i could master E like that Skyyr. maybe i wouldnt suck so bad hehehe. BUT I HAVE FUN!

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Re: Skyyr
« Reply #614 on: March 09, 2024, 07:44:31 AM »
You should come back. Need some actual competition in here.
I think about getting back into it all the time. I think next week when I’m back home I’ll hop on. I’ll be sure to find ya. I miss the back and forth fights we had back in the day.
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