Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS Info wanted

[Animl-AW]

Found this video to further my indecisive circle. Leaning Virpil.

[Animl-AW]

I have all Ch products but they are long in the tooth. I would shy away from CH as they sold out some years back and they are not the company they were years ago. They are also 8bit and much like some other companies, they are no longer working to improve their product.

CH was a hot stick back in the day. Barely hear of it now days. They musta really let it go.

[SIK1]

CH went from a family owned company to being bought out by an international conglomerate. The new owners focus is on the industrial side of the business, and they have no real interest in supporting or improving the hobbyist side.

I have an original Virpil Mongoos T-50 from when Virpil first started up. It was a real pita to order one back then had to do a wire transfer to Belarus, which my bank was hesitant to do. I'm real happy with it. It's been a great stick, and I've had zero issues with it.

 

[Animl-AW]

Crazy stuff
My x52 went way south.
Yesterday it would not even fire up.
Out of desperation I rebooted it and the pc a few times, just to play and die.
It fires up.
It has reverted to acting like a good stick again. I had scaling and damoening settings all iver the place. Now with just dampening on the rudder it runs good with no other scaling or settings at all, i can actually lock on target much better, not great but as good as and x52 can.

Weird ghost

[Professor_Fate]

My Flightstick One went Tango Uniform a week ago, unfortunately everything seems to be sold out or on back order. Thought about a VirPil but warbird bases are currently out of stock. Manufactured in Belarus I’m not so sure it will be available anytime soon.   

[SIK1]

My Flightstick One went Tango Uniform a week ago, unfortunately everything seems to be sold out or on back order. Thought about a VirPil but warbird bases are currently out of stock. Manufactured in Belarus I’m not so sure it will be available anytime soon.

You can try ordering a Virpil and see what the lead time is. Normally it seems to be no more than a couple of weeks, also iirc they moved some of their manufacturing to Lithuania.
If the lead time ends up being to long you can always cancel the order and get something else.

 

[hazmatt]

OK. As far as I'm concerned the T16000M is garbage. I thought it felt cheaply made but now my 6 month old stick is spiking on the twist axis like the thrustmaster HOTAS. As far as I'm concerned based on my experience with these two thrustmaster products they make junk. I would not buy either again.

[Brooke]

OK. As far as I'm concerned the T16000M is garbage. I thought it felt cheaply made but now my 6 month old stick is spiking on the twist axis like the thrustmaster HOTAS. As far as I'm concerned based on my experience with these two thrustmaster products they make junk. I would not buy either again.

When I had that problem in the past (it was another brand of stick, though), I changed to plugging my stick into a powered usb hub.  That solved my problem.  Not sure if that would be the issue for you, though.

[GasTeddy]

OK. As far as I'm concerned the T16000M is garbage. I thought it felt cheaply made but now my 6 month old stick is spiking on the twist axis like the thrustmaster HOTAS. As far as I'm concerned based on my experience with these two thrustmaster products they make junk. I would not buy either again.

Had similar probs in my Thrustmaster TWSC throttle mini stick and rocker paddle. Opened it up, dropped small drop of WD40 in potentiometers and problems solved. I do not use twist in 16000 but I presume same thing could fix it.

[hazmatt]

I would try a powered usb plug but it's plugged into a orange usb plug already and it worked fine for 6 months. I doubt that it's the plug but thanks for mentioning it.

[hazmatt]

Ya, I could probably tear it apart and fix it, but, I feel like having to repair something that is 6 months old means that it's junk. Am I going to have to tear it apart ever 6 months?

[Brooke]

I would try a powered usb plug but it's plugged into a orange usb plug already and it worked fine for 6 months. I doubt that it's the plug but thanks for mentioning it.

For me, it wasn't the socket.  It was, after about a year of working fine, a power chip on the motherboard not being able to deliver non-spiky power to the device.  I think some motherboards have very cheap USB power chips, and they can stress out and fail after a while.

[hazmatt]

Right. It's just that it does the same thing on every usb port that I move it to on whatever computer I move it to and my X54 controllers work fine on all of those same ports. I've seem write ups online on how to fix this so it appears to be a known issue.

[Brooke]

Right. It's just that it does the same thing on every usb port that I move it to on whatever computer I move it to and my X54 controllers work fine on all of those same ports. I've seem write ups online on how to fix this so it appears to be a known issue.

Roger that.  If it does the same thing even on other computers, probably not the power issue then, as you say.

[Animl-AW]

My X52, I got when dirt was created, has a bunch of power sucking LED lights. turning those off and using a USB power supply tamed it quite a bit. Not perfect, just better.