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Offline popeye

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Re: Clouds
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2024, 08:18:17 AM »
I asked Hitech about using the Overcast weather on one of my maps, and he said it wasn't appropriate for the MA.
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Re: Clouds
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2024, 11:42:07 AM »
Looks like you need to get somebody else to ask for you popeye :)

On a serious note. How much time would it take to create a very small map with 3 bases in a triangle on an island with 3 gv spawns in the middle of that island close to each other? I'd be interested in hosting something like that in player areanas. The closest I've found to it is the myterr map but it doesn't have spawns in the middle and it has a big hill there that I don't think would make for go gving.

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Re: Clouds
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2024, 12:11:31 PM »
Looks like you need to get somebody else to ask for you popeye :)

On a serious note. How much time would it take to create a very small map with 3 bases in a triangle on an island with 3 gv spawns in the middle of that island close to each other? I'd be interested in hosting something like that in player areanas. The closest I've found to it is the myterr map but it doesn't have spawns in the middle and it has a big hill there that I don't think would make for go gving.

A map builder could make something like that for you in an afternoon.

I tried it once.  DmonSlayer was convinced he knew the layout that would attract action.  I offered to build it for him to spec.  I made none of the decisions.  Just built it exactly how he asked for it.  He flew it gave some feed back and I made those changes too.  Made it custom to exactly the spec that he said would be a great hit.

I hosted it on a spare machine 24/7 for two weeks.  Dmonslayer and one other guy showed up for an hour on the first day and then nothing.

In defense of DmonSlayer (ooofff I hate doing that) I don't think anything off the front tab will ever be seen\noticed.  Only the Special Events tab is different because people are scheduled to go there on a specific day at a specific time for an event.  Anything other than that off the main tab is invisible.

And if it was on the front tab it might not matter.  It is a necessary but perhaps not sufficient condition.



 

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Re: Clouds
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2024, 12:25:39 PM »
Aye. I agree. I thought the same about hosting a map. "if you build it they will come" but they don't.

I'm not looking for it to be a great hit or something like that. I'm looking for it to play with my kids and maybe some friends and anybody else who might wander along when it was up?

Do you still have that map? I'd be interested. It sounds like the same kinda of idea.

How much difference in workload is it to edit an existing map vs creating something simple from scratch?

I mean for example: Would it be easier to take a map like myterr and flatten the mountain in the middle and put gv spawn points there or would it be easier to start from scratch?

Also, how much work would it take to add a flight of drones for each country? It wouldn't be anything like the western front areana (which I think is very well done) Maybe something more like the FFA with just random planes flying around.

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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2024, 12:44:43 PM »
Do you still have that map? I'd be interested. It sounds like the same kinda of idea.

The map I am referring to I thing is listed as: "Cpt. Trip's Furball FFA 1".  I think that was our final version.  Don't think it had vehicle spawn-points as DmonSlayer is all about air combat. ;)

I don't have the source.  I deleted all my map and mission stuff.  I'm not going to go dig through archive CD's. ;)

What you are talking about it fairly small and simple.  My recommendation is to make it a good first learning project and make your own map and setup you own AI mission.  Maybe make it a learning activity with your kids.

You'd get it exactly like you want and walk away with a useful bit of knowledge.


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You might also look at "Combat for H2H by Easyscor".  I believe he tried something similar with not much better results.



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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2024, 01:55:27 PM »
In the H2H days, you could host a terrain and fill the room often. Those days are gone.
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Re: Clouds
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2024, 02:14:33 PM »
The map I am referring to I thing is listed as: "Cpt. Trip's Furball FFA 1".  I think that was our final version.  Don't think it had vehicle spawn-points as DmonSlayer is all about air combat. ;)

I don't have the source.  I deleted all my map and mission stuff.  I'm not going to go dig through archive CD's. ;)

What you are talking about it fairly small and simple.  My recommendation is to make it a good first learning project and make your own map and setup you own AI mission.  Maybe make it a learning activity with your kids.

You'd get it exactly like you want and walk away with a useful bit of knowledge.


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You might also look at "Combat for H2H by Easyscor".  I believe he tried something similar with not much better results.

I appreciate the info and I'll look for that map. I have looked into creating my own map, however it didn't seem intuitive to me and What I want to avoid is taking 12 hours to learn something that could have been done in 30 minutes by somebody who knew what they were doing. If I was going to do more then one map it would make sense for me. Who knows maybe I'll find a bunch of free time to do it but I'm guessing it's not likely :)

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Re: Clouds
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2024, 03:35:14 PM »
In the H2H days, you could host a terrain and fill the room often. Those days are gone.

You probably could today too.. but the clunky and not very visible interface of the login screen would likely cut into those results.

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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2024, 04:35:34 PM »
You probably could today too.. but the clunky and not very visible interface of the login screen would likely cut into those results.

My Shuff's Paradise was used quite a lot in H2H. I had several terrains for that setup. Did not take long to make.... they are nothing compared to a MA terrain. I take my hat off to those fellas. They are truly devoted.
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Re: Clouds
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2024, 05:47:40 PM »
My Shuff's Paradise was used quite a lot in H2H. I had several terrains for that setup. Did not take long to make.... they are nothing compared to a MA terrain. I take my hat off to those fellas. They are truly devoted.

I spent quite a few hours of my youth in Shufflers Paradise.

I was either. NewU*** numbers guy, or I think lookout was my first callsign in the H2H arenas.  Towards the end of my H2H days picked up the callsign Lazer and started getting slaughtered in the MA filled with 700+.  Lol

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Re: Clouds
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2024, 05:56:56 PM »
I spent quite a few hours of my youth in Shufflers Paradise.

I was either. NewU*** numbers guy, or I think lookout was my first callsign in the H2H arenas.  Towards the end of my H2H days picked up the callsign Lazer and started getting slaughtered in the MA filled with 700+.  Lol

Lookout sounds familiar to me!
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2024, 11:30:50 AM »
Lookout sounds familiar to me!

That's what we are always telling you....   :rofl
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Re: Clouds
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2024, 07:48:30 AM »
Monday Night Madness in AvA has had fog, like this for years!  Never once heard a whine..it makes for some awesome fights too!


Sounds like a hoot, you have me interested  :D
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2024, 08:39:08 AM »

Sounds like a hoot, you have me interested  :D

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Re: Clouds
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2024, 02:56:19 PM »
Is this a wish list item?