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Offline GasTeddy

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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2024, 03:33:46 PM »
NONE of these replies disagree with anything in my post.  You just don't like these truths and instead choose to build a strawman.



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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2024, 07:48:19 AM »
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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2024, 09:16:41 AM »
They have to hire the afflicted because, "no one wants to work (for slave wages) anymore".

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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2024, 09:24:35 AM »
They have to hire the afflicted because, "no one wants to work (for slave wages) anymore".

You have to start out somewhere...$15 in most places isn't slave wages...

I suggest you read up on slavery

And be sure to hire and overpay as many unskilled workers as your business can support...

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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2024, 10:50:52 AM »
You can live on $15 an hour?

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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2024, 11:28:08 AM »
You can live on $15 an hour?

Highschoolers make extra income all the time like that. If you want to flip burgers all your life, that is your problem. How about educating yourself. Otherwise, you are making yourself a slave. My guess is you have a phone paid for by all of us tax payers. Your food and housing is probably paid by the same tax payers. You consider yourself a slave because that is all you ever wanted to be.
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2024, 12:29:34 PM »
Saw a recent opinion piece somewhere recently. Said to live middle class now requires an income of $120K. The more money printed and given away the more things will cost. Unless you want communism. Then virtually everyone lives at the poverty level.
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2024, 12:31:05 PM »
You can live on $15 an hour?

We lived off $3.25 an hour when 1st married...

I was blessed as my field had as much overtime as I could work...

They are scared of hard work and absolutely petrified of hard manual labor these days

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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2024, 12:33:43 PM »
We lived off $3.25 an hour when 1st married...

And a house cost 60k. 



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« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2024, 12:41:40 PM »
And a house cost 60k.

Yes it's all relative but then we never expected to purchase a house with that salary..we just tried to pay the bills,  keep the lights on and figure out how to advance in my field and make more..

45 years later after raising two sons we are able to fully retire at 64 and 63 last October.

So tired of the whining from the young today

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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2024, 12:48:40 PM »
Yes it's all relative but then we never expected to purchase a house with that salary..we just tried to pay the bills,  keep the lights on and figure out how to advance in my field and make more..

45 years later after raising two sons we are able to fully retire at 64 and 63 last October.

So tired of the whining from the young today

Eagler

I wouldn't want to be a young person today inheriting the mess being left to them. 

They will have a lot less opportunities to thrive than earlier generations.

They got whacked by GFC and then COVID which derailed their early careers. 
They they have to pay the debt the boomer left them, while paying into SS they might not see to keep the boomers fed in their old age.



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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2024, 01:01:29 PM »
Oh.. We're talking about fast food?  I thought we were talking about airplane manufacturers.

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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2024, 01:37:56 PM »
Oh.. We're talking about fast food?  I thought we were talking about airplane manufacturers.

In the beginning we did. Then someone turned it into a slavery. And that lead to the salaries. Wonder how many slaves there are in aircraft industry?

In EU, where many things are more expensive than in US, there are lots of slaves. Like, where I live nowadays, my net pension is 3 times local average net salary and I'm totally enslaved by my cats.   😼

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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2024, 01:51:37 PM »
I think all DIE does is put more pressure on every other group of people except white Americans. Thanks to this, now so many black folks will just be considered "diversity hires" which is a negative connotation. This doesn't benefit them IMO, but perhaps it may encourage them work even harder to prove they aren't just there because if their skin color. Meh.

This is everything MLK Jr was against BTW. He wanted black people to be represented the exact same way as whites, not put into a category of "we deserve it because of color". Not segregated into these types of "categories". There always be a "minority victim" with this. Not what MLK wanted.

Going into wages. It's always a tricky concept. Every business has to be looked at individually. There are good companies and bad companies. Some offer more time off, some offer 401k and better health insurance. Some aren't meant to be careers. Some truely could pay their employees much better. The issues is that all wages are based on a market rate. I don't like that, but its what it is. It should be based on how well the company does compared to its peers in the zone economy, and provide a higher wage if they are doing better to gain the advantage of a better workforce. Pay doesn't always achieve a better workforce though. However you'll be able to get better candidates who want the higher pay and therefore achieve better results.

The issue is. One cannot identify what a "livable market rate" is. They say, "should be able to afford rent, food, car, gas, or what have you, what they don't say is, what apartment/where? What food, what type of car, ect. That is the tricky concept. Then you'll have all companies trying to emulate that, which may drive down standard of living as more companies will just resort to paying that minimum standard.

Then they say, if they cant hire someone with a "livable wage" , they shouldn't be allowed to own a business or hire someone. This inturn makes it much easier for large corporations to thrive. They will go ahead and prevent you from owning a business because it's not going to be able to have the cash to pay their idea of a "livable wage". So you will go back to working at the larger Corp that can. You want your 13 year old kid to work the register to grow and learn how to work at an early wage? Forget about it. You won't be allowed to have him work. And oh btw, you have to pay this guy whose been in prison for 10 years the same as old Betty over there whose been working here for 20 because we cannot afford to have fluctuations in pay as we must pay every 25 an hour, even the 17 year old high schooler. It just doesn't make sense not to have a hierarchy in business. And one who think management jobs are easier has never been a manager. That's the biggest red herring in the book.

These days, companies should be paying as much as they can to get and retain the best talent. It's very easy to change jobs when you are young. Once you gain experience you have it for life. Oh and yes, trying hard in school does matter.
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Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2024, 06:21:25 PM »
"People with ‘Complete Paralysis, Epilepsy, Severe Intellectual Disability, Psychiatric Disability’ to Lead Air Travel Operations in Pursuit of Woke DEI Quotas"
article relevant to recent event concerns; https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/people-complete-paralysis-epilepsy-severe-intellectual-disability-psychiatric/

Wonder how many people will get killed or injured because of their wokeness. Imagine requesting clearance to land and you instead hear "BARNEY!!!QQGHFXQWKND!!!!"
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