Author Topic: Loose bolts  (Read 8796 times)

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18219
Loose bolts
« on: January 09, 2024, 07:24:25 AM »
When a door is called a window and an iPhone survives a fall from 16000 ft...

Boeing having another great day..

Eagler
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline Shuffler

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27091
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2024, 07:31:39 AM »
Referred to as a plug. Will be interesting to see what they find. One other had loose bolts.
Two different phones were found and are being returned to their owners.
80th FS "Headhunters"

S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning In A Bottle)

Offline Animl-AW

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3230
      • Aces High Tech Hangar
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2024, 10:19:09 AM »
When a door is called a window and an iPhone survives a fall from 16000 ft...

Boeing having another great day..

Eagler

What brand are the undamaged? What a great commercial.

Offline Meatwad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12797
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2024, 04:59:41 PM »
Must be built from recycled Nokia phones
See Rule 19- Do not place sausage on pizza.
I am No-Sausage-On-Pizza-Wad.
Das Funkillah - I kill hangers, therefore I am a funkiller. Coming to a vulchfest near you.
You cant tie a loop around 400000 lbs of locomotive using a 2 foot rope - Drediock on fat women

Offline GasTeddy

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1096
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2024, 05:25:29 PM »
Must be built from recycled Nokia phones

Old Nokias could take a nuclear blast. These modern zombiephones are sensitive to everything.

Offline MiloMorai

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6864
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2024, 01:40:49 AM »

Offline Brooke

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15549
      • http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2024, 09:14:48 PM »
Based on recently getting a house built, declining quality of various products I buy, talking to friends who work in various businesses including healthcare, etc., it seems like competence is on the decline.

It seems like businesses of all types have an increasing proportion of incompetent management.  Incompetent management doesn't know how to fix itself, or how to get competent workers.  And it makes the work environment worse.

Competent workers then bail, as they don't want to work for morons or work in a unpleasant, stupidly run work environment.  Or just move to, "OK, you're the boss" and do it the stupid way because trying to educate morons doesn't work.  Which makes the problems worse.  Which makes more competent people leave.  It's a vicious negative-feedback loop.

The result is increasing supply problems, plunging quality of product, greater faults and failures.

Offline Busher

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2148
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2024, 09:49:41 PM »
Based on recently getting a house built, declining quality of various products I buy, talking to friends who work in various businesses including healthcare, etc., it seems like competence is on the decline.

It seems like businesses of all types have an increasing proportion of incompetent management.  Incompetent management doesn't know how to fix itself, or how to get competent workers.  And it makes the work environment worse.

Competent workers then bail, as they don't want to work for morons or work in a unpleasant, stupidly run work environment.  Or just move to, "OK, you're the boss" and do it the stupid way because trying to educate morons doesn't work.  Which makes the problems worse.  Which makes more competent people leave.  It's a vicious negative-feedback loop.

The result is increasing supply problems, plunging quality of product, greater faults and failures.

I agree with this Op-ed entirely. I would only add (and I was a career Union member) that Trade Unions can never break into a Company with strong intelligent and receptive Management.
Being male, an accident of birth. Being a man, a matter of age. Being a gentleman, a matter of choice.

Offline fd ski

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1525
      • http://www.northotwing.com/wing/
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2024, 02:06:24 AM »
Based on recently getting a house built, declining quality of various products I buy, talking to friends who work in various businesses including healthcare, etc., it seems like competence is on the decline.

It seems like businesses of all types have an increasing proportion of incompetent management.  Incompetent management doesn't know how to fix itself, or how to get competent workers.  And it makes the work environment worse.

Competent workers then bail, as they don't want to work for morons or work in a unpleasant, stupidly run work environment.  Or just move to, "OK, you're the boss" and do it the stupid way because trying to educate morons doesn't work.  Which makes the problems worse.  Which makes more competent people leave.  It's a vicious negative-feedback loop.

The result is increasing supply problems, plunging quality of product, greater faults and failures.

We live in times when appearances beat competences, words beat deeds and volume dominates eloquence. This is our culture now and it is no wonder that it permeated into workplace. It doesn't pay to do right thing, to do good job or to be skilled when all you need to do is announce those things and you're all set.
If you work in corporation, it is often described as "building your brand". Euphemism for self aggrandizement on company's dime.
Since this strategy works, you end up with companies that have thousands of workers only fraction of whom do anything worthwhile, they are managed by those who succeeded in above strategy the most - with predictable results. Lots of announcements, great successes, amazing achievements, and somehow, everything is just as it was, or maybe little worst...

Welcome to the brave new world.

PS: yes, i work in 200k+ people corporation :)
 

Offline sparky127

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 676
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2024, 03:17:15 AM »
The Peter Principle.

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6995
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2024, 07:37:38 AM »
Keep this in mind when you fly commercial.   

I’m pretty sure “they” are still training “zero altitude loss stall recovery so we will likely see more planes mushing in from recoverable altitude to crash with wings level.

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12795
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2024, 08:07:38 AM »
Daughter was just visiting us in Texas and had a 4 hour delay going back to Idaho. Brother flew for American for many years before retiring a few years ago. He and his wife still travel but said American is getting bad.
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18219
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2024, 08:11:08 AM »
Keep this in mind when you do anything or go anywhere

Mediocrity, actually less than, rules the day...

Eagler
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline Shuffler

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27091
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2024, 09:40:56 AM »
My nephew a couple of years back did not get a job he put in for. He was told that he was the best candidate but they had to fill it with someone else. Companies can't blame their issues on someone else if they decide to live or die by DEI.

When you hire tokens, you get tokens.
80th FS "Headhunters"

S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning In A Bottle)

Offline Vraciu

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 14141
Re: Loose bolts
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2024, 09:47:45 AM »
Keep this in mind when you fly commercial.   

I’m pretty sure “they” are still training “zero altitude loss stall recovery so we will likely see more planes mushing in from recoverable altitude to crash with wings level.

No, they absolutely are not.
”KILLER V”
Charter Member of the P-51 Mustang Skin Mafia
- THE DAMNED -
King of the Hill Champ Tour 219 - Win Percentage 100
"1v1 Skyyr might be the best pilot ever to play the game." - Via PM, Name Redacted