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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1215 on: April 11, 2024, 04:13:05 PM »
One thing in Spudknocker's survey that is far from surprising but very important is the role youtube plays in gamer awareness.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1216 on: April 11, 2024, 04:29:07 PM »
The premium account is similar, but it's not a recurring subscription, you buy 20/60/180 days at a time.

Ahh.  Gotcha.  Thanks.  Want to describe it properly.

I had at one time suggested being able to buy blocks of hours in AH (still have all-you-can-eat subscription but have it as an alternative).

There are some folks who might only want to play only very occasionally.  Or just an event.  The event may span a month cross-over and they don't want to pay for two full months.  They can open and close the account but they have to go beg for their handle each time?

Blocks of hours might be something a parent can gift a child without committing to an ongoing subscription.  Might be something to help people who don't feel they would play often enough for an ongoing subscription to convince themselves can be justified.  Does it really make sense mathematically?  Maybe, maybe not.  But a lot of time consumer purchasing choices have large components of psychology involved and not just math.  That's why things are sold for $14.95 instead of just saying $15. ;)

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1217 on: April 11, 2024, 04:49:28 PM »
The premium account is similar, but it's not a recurring subscription, you buy 20/60/180 days at a time.

So actually that is interesting.

I stand corrected then.

Of the remaining top combat flightsims, WT, DCS, IL2, AH,  AH is the last one attempting an old school monthly subscription model?

I wonder why?  More of that consumer purchasing psychology stuff?

I'm assuming we aren't worrying about including WWIIOnline or WB any more as one of the "top" list.



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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1218 on: April 11, 2024, 04:54:53 PM »
I'm sure the current subscription model for AH is profitable. What happens if it goes free to play without increasing the player base and garnering those pay to win perks some of the others use? Can you go back or is it over?
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1219 on: April 11, 2024, 05:34:53 PM »
Demographics in the poll is interesting.



I would love to see these stats but I'm not going to watch for an hour while he reads charts to me.

Do you know if there is a breakdown somewhere for those of us who still can read? :)

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« Reply #1220 on: April 11, 2024, 05:37:39 PM »
I love to fish.  If you go to your favorite spot and try your favorite lure and can't get a bite,  you can either stubbornly stand there and keep pounding the same lure in the same spot for hours and go home empty handed, or you can try moving to a new spot, try a different lure, try different depth, try a different presentation, try and find another pattern that will produce and go home with your limit.

What? I always stay at the same spot. Moving around is too much work, plus, I figure if I move the fish will come to the spot where I am and I'll miss them!

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1221 on: April 11, 2024, 05:38:33 PM »
I would love to see these stats but I'm not going to watch for an hour while he reads charts to me.

Do you know if there is a breakdown somewhere for those of us who still can read? :)

I don't know but you can turn the sound down and the left and right cursors will skip ahead and back 5 secs a click.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1222 on: April 11, 2024, 06:16:11 PM »
Much useful information therein to be gleaned by any flight sim developer me thinks.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1223 on: April 11, 2024, 07:07:28 PM »
I would love to see these stats but I'm not going to watch for an hour while he reads charts to me.

Do you know if there is a breakdown somewhere for those of us who still can read? :)

Are you kidding?

That's nerd porn.  I just made a bowl of popcorn and poured a big bourbon to sit down with this.

I'm already getting woody.  :D


[Edit] Well, right off the bat in the first 2 min, I can tell you one thing.  That is what a healthy demographic distribution looks like.


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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1224 on: April 11, 2024, 11:21:21 PM »
I paid $6/hr for Genie in '90-'91. It probably came down in price after that. Some played on Compuserve which was even more.

I think it was 92 when I signed up... it was $6.  Buuuuuleeeeve me.  That crap broke me. But it was fun.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1225 on: April 12, 2024, 11:24:37 AM »
I stumbled across this video comparing WT, IL2 and DCS.

I had no idea the planes in WT could cost $50! wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpxbhh0PGtk

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1226 on: April 12, 2024, 12:15:47 PM »
That's very common for WT/WoWS/WoT. They are premium planes/vehicles/ships not apart of the normal tech tree.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1227 on: April 12, 2024, 12:23:34 PM »
I had no idea the planes in WT could cost $50! wow


But that's just a few premium planes and tanks. And you can do perfectly fine without them. For the record, after all these years I only 'own' 3 premium tanks, of which the most expensive did cost me 6.6€
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1228 on: April 12, 2024, 12:27:02 PM »

But that's just a few premium planes and tanks. And you can do perfectly fine without them. For the record, after all these years I only 'own' 3 premium tanks, of which the most expensive did cost me 6.6€

Sounds like me in IL2. I buy the whole theater for $19 and all the add on planes when they're $2.99.

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1229 on: April 12, 2024, 02:30:50 PM »
Sounds like me in IL2. I buy the whole theater for $19 and all the add on planes when they're $2.99.

My first purchases were Bodenplatte and Sturm for about half price, kind of sales. Then, when there were those real sales, I took Kuban and Tank Crew and premium planes I snatched Fw190 D-9 and Hs129 B-2. Now I have gadgets and contraptions for every server and map but mostly I'm driving around with big angry German cats Tiger and Panther.