Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable

[Tumor]

You’re certainly not here because you have friends here.

I'm here because I like it here, partly.  The other part is to curb your built-in burning desire to censor stuff.

[Spikes]

Is there anything against that in the forum rules?  I looked and didn't see anything.

I would argue off topic, at this point. The original goal of the thread was discussion about AH versus the other sims, but there has seldom been mention of AH in the last 20-30 pages.

[CptTrips]

I would argue off topic, at this point. The original goal of the thread was discussion about AH versus the other sims, but there has seldom been mention of AH in the last 20-30 pages.

Would the topic author agree?

Edge, are we hijacking your thread? If so, I apologize.  Conversations evolve.

[edge12674]

I hold Spikes, Eagler, and Dadtallica in high regard and respect their opinions.  I think they make a valid point. 

Discussing features of different sims for comparison, with AH as a common point of reference, was the main point of this thread.  Also as a safe place for "AH only" players to ask about other sims out there.

I have learned quite a bit about IL-2, WarThunder, Combat Pilot, and the current state of AH from this thread.    I appreciate that HiTech allows the discussion of other sims on this forum and think other sims should follow suit.  Our hobby is too much of a niche to be phobic about discussing all the options available to us.

[edge12674]

Would the topic author agree?

Edge, are we hijacking your thread? If so, I apologize.  Conversations evolve.

I have been guilty of this as well.  Easy to get off track with our passions. 

[CptTrips]

I hold Spikes, Eagler, and Dadtallica in high regard and respect their opinions.  I think they make a valid point. 

Discussing features of different sims for comparison, with AH as a common point of reference, was the main point of this thread.  Also as a safe place for "AH only" players to ask about other sims out there.

I have learned quite a bit about IL-2, WarThunder, Combat Pilot, and the current state of AH from this thread.    I appreciate that HiTech allows the discussion of other sims on this forum and think other sims should follow suit.  Our hobby is too much of a niche to be phobic about discussing all the options available to us.

I've been discussing AH over in Enigma's IL2 discord too.  No one has wet themselves and we've had some great discussions.  Pros and cons and compare contrast IL 1946\GB v DCS v CP v AH.

[CptTrips]

I have been guilty of this as well.  Easy to get off track with our passions. 

Ok.  So I had tried at the beginning and all I got were personal anecdotal testimonies on why this person or that person prefers AH to everything else and AH is simply the best in all categories.  I had been trying to talk about the next higher view of where AH fits in with the overall sim market regardless of the selection bias of decades long AH customers preferring it.  I have no doubt about that.

So let's get back on topic.

Simple question I never get a straight answer on.  For those that say AH is best and needs no improvement, where are the players at?

Why did the 600 a night players leave, and why have they never been able to be replaced?

Why does IL2 GB find customers, WT, DCS (all across the sim spectrum) get the customers AH can't attract?

Is it simply HT needs to run some ads?

If HT ran $mil ad buy tomorrow, would that put 600 players back in the area (durably)?  If not, what is holding it back?

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I actually think AH has more potential customers at it's point on the sim curve than DCS has at it's chosen point.  DCS is fringe.  But it captures near 100% of it potential base.  That is why it is making money.  Smaller potential but captures most of it's potential.

IMHO, AH has a larger population of potential customers with it's middle of the road fidelity design, but it captures almost 0% of the potential.

WT on the other the hand has the most potential customers and captures a very high percentage of them.  That is why they are printing money hand over fist.

[Animl-AW]

I've been discussing AH over in Enigma's IL2 discord too.  No one has wet themselves and we've had some great discussions.  Pros and cons and compare contrast IL 1946\GB v DCS v CP v AH.

Play on words, dbl talk. They have it segregated away from other forums. Grow up. You’re not fooling one single person. You’re a scammer and skimmer. Nothing more, nothing less. Snf you think its just me because I’m the loudest. You have no paying customer friends here. You sank yourself with this con job and constant spam.

Maybe the paying customers need more attention than firmer player spammers.

[Animl-AW]

I hold Spikes, Eagler, and Dadtallica in high regard and respect their opinions.  I think they make a valid point. 

Discussing features of different sims for comparison, with AH as a common point of reference, was the main point of this thread.  Also as a safe place for "AH only" players to ask about other sims out there.

I have learned quite a bit about IL-2, WarThunder, Combat Pilot, and the current state of AH from this thread.    I appreciate that HiTech allows the discussion of other sims on this forum and think other sims should follow suit.  Our hobby is too much of a niche to be phobic about discussing all the options available to us.

Oh please.

[CptTrips]

Sig line.

[Animl-AW]

Sig line.

Sig there, biggest drama queen AH ever had here. Now play poor victim and hit the report button in s paying player again.

No one wants you here.

I can buy a happy meal instead.

[CptTrips]

Sig line.

[GasTeddy]

Sig there, biggest drama queen AH ever had here. Now play poor victim and hit the report button in s paying player again.

No one wants you here.

I can buy a happy meal instead.

Sorry to say, Animl, but it is you who is playing the role of martyr here, like someone was forcing you to read this topic. If edge12674 as an author accepts the development of discussion and HT allows it to continue, what is your problem?

And let's now make a comparison of forums, AH vs IL-2. The latter has its own subforum, dedicated for discussions of other sims. There are several non-IL2 flying persons participating and nobody flying there behaves like having fire ants in their pants because of them.

[AKIron]

I've played many WWI "sims" over the decades. Rise of Flight was pretty good. Would buy IL-2 Flying Circus but it's 80 bucks. Will watch for a sale.

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Just saw it at the IL-2 site for much less, non-steam. Gonna hafta buy it.

[nopoop]

Tbe only one anoying here is YOU Animl.

Do all of us a favor and shut it...