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I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« on: January 19, 2024, 09:43:12 AM »
It's in Ontario, straight north from MN's arrowhead region, between Winnipeg and Thunder Bay.   Always new it was somewhere in this lakes area of N Minnesota- S Canada, but today it finally clicked when I noticed the shape of Lac Seul in the center of the map.

One thing I don't understand - the arena setup parameters show its location as Lat 32.9456, Long -97.2821.   When I plug these values into Google Maps (assuming a negative longitude value indicates East) I land somewhere in China, near Tibet.  If I alter it to 97.2821 W longitude, I'm in Keller, TX - nowhere near Canada.





Dang, looking at these maps make me hungry for a Walleye fillet.   Pan-fried Walleye, French Fries, and some cole slaw on the side.   Mmmmm.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2024, 10:04:57 AM »
Wow that’s very spot on. Nice find.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2024, 10:16:27 AM »
One thing I don't understand - the arena setup parameters show its location as Lat 32.9456, Long -97.2821.   When I plug these values into Google Maps (assuming a negative longitude value indicates East) I land somewhere in China, near Tibet. If I alter it to 97.2821 W longitude, I'm in Keller, TX - nowhere near Canada.
Well... Isn't Keller, TX the actual location of all official AH maps? The minus sign sounds like a typo to me.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2024, 10:20:35 AM »
Negative sign is used to differentiate between East and West or North and South on Artiks map generator, as well as NOAA's data coordinates.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2024, 10:34:39 AM »
Nice detective work.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2024, 10:48:22 AM »
Hence the name,  "NORTHCOuntry".    :D
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2024, 11:07:07 AM »
Thanks guys,

Jimmy do you know, can you change the default Lat/Long?   If a more southern location was chosen, wouldn't the sun reach higher into the sky at noon?  Sometimes I feel the sun just doesn't seem high enough, when I'm looking at skins externally and even set the time to noon.

Do you know if the coordinates indicate the center of the map, or the lower left corner (origin?), or some other location?

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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2024, 11:39:20 AM »
Oboe..... I am becoming concerned about you.  :rofl

You seem to be becoming a Globalholic.  :P
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2024, 11:42:50 AM »
 :D

Just that I've always loved maps!

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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2024, 11:48:08 AM »
:D

Just that I've always loved maps!

In truth... it has always been because of people like you that we can find our way today. All through history we have had map makers. Those who have been so interested in making and improving maps. Keep up the good work. Your terrain maps look amazing in large format.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2024, 11:55:15 AM »
Thanks guys,

Jimmy do you know, can you change the default Lat/Long?   If a more southern location was chosen, wouldn't the sun reach higher into the sky at noon?  Sometimes I feel the sun just doesn't seem high enough, when I'm looking at skins externally and even set the time to noon.

Do you know if the coordinates indicate the center of the map, or the lower left corner (origin?), or some other location?

Oboe, the coordinates I use to generate a map are centrally located, so I would assume Sun position would be in the proper location for those coordinates. Of course the time of year would cause the appropriate deviations.

As to changing an existing maps coordinates, I've never tried it. Will be interesting to see.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2024, 12:01:10 PM »
Thanks Jimmy,

If it is an arena setting, I would think Hitech could make the change without have to recompile the terrain or anything?   I wonder if the date is the same inside the terrain - e.g. is it January 19th in the terrains?   That would correspond to a lower sun position at midday, later sunrises and earlier sunsets.


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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2024, 12:57:48 PM »
Thanks Jimmy,

If it is an arena setting, I would think Hitech could make the change without have to recompile the terrain or anything?   I wonder if the date is the same inside the terrain - e.g. is it January 19th in the terrains?   That would correspond to a lower sun position at midday, later sunrises and earlier sunsets.

Wow, I didn't even know sun position based on distance from the equator was a thing in AH. Thats interesting! Also didn't know Northco was based on a real map. Also cool!  :cool:
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2024, 01:26:23 PM »
Thanks Jimmy,

If it is an arena setting, I would think Hitech could make the change without have to recompile the terrain or anything?   I wonder if the date is the same inside the terrain - e.g. is it January 19th in the terrains?   That would correspond to a lower sun position at midday, later sunrises and earlier sunsets.

I believe the coordinates are locked into the terrain when it's created. But the date/time setting are adjustable in the CM menu. They are rarely changed for events.
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Re: I found NorthCo terrain IRL
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2024, 01:32:09 PM »
This map needs to be snow covered.
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