Please stop doing that

[The Fugitive]

What does that mean?

So your not opposed to 2 side ganging then.It's a numbers game. I think your Idea supports field progression for concentrating combat. Several possibilities can occur.  Country A & country B takes 30% of Country C. Country A & C fight B, B has numbers to fight both. Or B with numbers "conspire"with C, what then. Only thing gained is option of base to attack. Side numbers make the difference. With ENY and limited base capture paths, could not a smaller force hold? Stacked GV's bombers and fighters vying for 1 or 2 bases sound like a consolidated combat setup. Then that opens up the strategic bombers to weaken front. Granted I prefer a fighter/furball scenario, so I might be missing the bigger picture.

In my idea, Bish capture 2 knight bases. They are now locked out on any more captures of Knight bases until they capture one Rook base to then again unlock the Knight front. If the bish continue to attack Rook bases they will only be allowed to capture 1 more base (making 2 in a row) before they are locked out from capturing Rook bases until they capture another Knight base.

In this scenario there is a continual switch from front to front so no country is just rolling along while the other 2 countries fight on the other front. It moves the action around giving all side a reason to fight the other teams. A flat setting of say stop captures once your country has 30% could push out a country for hours with a double team, but at least that could give the crushed team time to recover once the teams turn to fight each other.

Basically what both sytems do is to curb "human nature" in that once they get rolling they just never stop.

[GasTeddy]

 This is a loophole that allowed two countries to beat one to dust, without causing a reset, so they could both beat it more (split the %).

Poland 1939. Germany did most of the job in west and Russians rolled in from east, when Polish army was practically defeated.

In my idea, Bish capture 2 knight bases. They are now locked out on any more captures of Knight bases until they capture one Rook base to then again unlock the Knight front. If the bish continue to attack Rook bases they will only be allowed to capture 1 more base (making 2 in a row) before they are locked out from capturing Rook bases until they capture another Knight base.

Something like that might help. 2 or 3 base limit or some other restriction. As greedy minds cannot be controlled, some other method is needed.

[The Fugitive]

Personally I dont care what happens. If there are no fights for me Ill jump in a buff and hit some towns and stuff. Maybe it will start a fight, maybe it wont. Either way my bombing scores look great and chicks dig that.

What does bother me is some peoples thinking. As RotBaron said....

Lol

Yes to some of the suspicions and no to others.

First I’m almost always Knights so it wasn’t FineTime doing anything. Also it wasn’t just Pizza map, it was also Oceania prior and even more the last couple weeks if not months. The gang bang to the point of having ~45% of your bases makes fights difficult to find or even start.

Yeas whine, cry, yah yah. When you see players logging because of this stuff MAYBE the complainants are quite appropriate.

What was discussed on country because this keeps happening as often as it is, ONE solution is to pork your ords and even HQ to the point of silliness. If that sounds like a consequence you’ll enjoy because you enjoy the 2v1 hording, then remember this was the REACTION.
 

One point hes talking about his teammates loggin off due to this stuff and then he finishes with a plan to cause issue for another team which will then log off 

Yup that will make it more fun for everyone. Like Hitech said years ago, "adapt".

[Dadtallica]

Personally I dont care what happens. If there are no fights for me Ill jump in a buff and hit some towns and stuff. Maybe it will start a fight, maybe it wont. Either way my bombing scores look great and chicks dig that.

I knew there was a reason they were digging me lately!

I do the same thing for the same results. Bombing strats is fun. Maybe if people tried to expand their plane set they would have more fun and “find a fight” more often.

Most people who can’t seem to find fights are only looking to dogfight. Lots of ways to play this game.

[Animl-AW]

Slippin into darkness
During the massive gang bang 2 weeks ago I watched 12 people log off within 20-30min. It continued and I followed. So the little gamer stunt made for some poor impressions.

There was absolutely nothing good that came of it.

So as I say, and evidently not alone, Retributions will be in order, and thats war,….as the victims adapt to dweebery. Sad part is, these aren’t ignant newbies.

Resets are aspirin, not the cure. Its war. 

Edit: an extreme would be, if i can’t get decent flights in on prime time weekends 6 weeks in,… weeks,…why am I playing? Had another guy who hasn’t been playing say “if that’s going on I’m not missing anything. And this is why its stupid, not that my butt got hurt, the game gets hurt.

Thise gang bangs happened through coordination, 6 weeks is not a fluke, its intensionally planned between two countries.

No settings will change, but HQs will dump <shrug> its adapting. < runs>

[Animl-AW]

Kinda if a shame I don’t have my squad anymore. I wouldn’t bother asking Fin3time to do it, I’d just roll in with two 30k formations and escorts, dump both HQs and hold them both down all weekend. Pipe dreams, lol.

Good settings ideas, but in court HT defense would be Adapt, Reset. (Guessing)

[GasTeddy]

Kinda if a shame I don’t have my squad anymore. I wouldn’t bother asking Fin3time to do it, I’d just roll in with two 30k formations and escorts, dump both HQs and hold them both down all weekend. Pipe dreams, lol.

Good settings ideas, but in court HT defense would be Adapt, Reset. (Guessing)

 Idea is tempting, but normally not enough manpower to do that..

[Animl-AW]

Idea is tempting, but normally not enough manpower to do that..

Back in the day, didn’t worry about it, I had my own man power.. This is not back in the day. That was a long time ago now. Ha! Prolly would only last 1 full day. Thats enough to make a point.

While I agree with some ideas, there can be unpredictable consequences with settings. Look what happened when new radar came into play. Sometimes thinking outside the box is a better fit. Frontline battles can have limitations. 7-8 pilots sticking to precise plans can change dynamics of the war of the day.

Last night I flew solo B-17s for the first time in over a decade. I went after Ammo, didn’t make it by 5k, but it drew 6-7 off the frontline to come after me. It seems to me many players are comfortable in the box. If the frontline was too heavy I just go up snd over. and rock their world.

Knits have a problem of being too scattered. But when we get 7-8 guys together and focus we cayse some harsh damage. We can take 3-5 bases in an hour..

All my opinion, but to beat good ideas ya have to have better countering ideas. Ya gotta out think the enemy. When you’re scattered its because ya have no plan. Do something badars, their butts will follow. That said, hordes are breakable, ya won’t do it strictly on frontlines.

Thoughts by the village idiot

[Animl-AW]

I think the best example if settings not goin over as well us when I redesigned the damage model in AW. No one tasked me to do it, I just found a weak point and went after it.

AW was nit originally surface strikes, 3D was not that advanced in the beginning. It was a Hit Bubble, and to get different results was a randomizer for end results. Ss long as you hit that invisible bubble you got some damage or kill.

It took me weeks and endless testing to change that to a much more realistic model. The Full Realism guys who I’ll refer to as simmers, and AW staff loved it and decided we had to use it. So to further test the reaction of the masses we put in in both Relaxed Realism who I refer to as gamers and in FR arenas. It was a little harder to get kills, because now you got proper damage over just straight kills. I got “thata boy” “ awesome”

It went over real well in FR, it was a must have to them. RR loved it too, for about a week or less. And then RR rebelled, because they had to be more precise to get a kill. Then they revolted. We took it out of RR and just left it in FR and/or scenarios.

Point being, a great change got rejected by the bigger RR crowd. They didn’t love more reality, go figure.

Point being, it all looked good on paper. Sometimes what they said they wanted wasn’t what they wanted after tasting it. All that barking was for nawt by the RR/Gamer tribes.

While I think these are great ideas that COULD have positive results, I’m also onboard with HT in try adapting first. There are infinite ways to play this sim, only a few are tapped into. Once you make a setting change, no matter how much they ask for it, it has possibilities of not turning out as planned. If that happens the biosphere gets ill. After several failed settings, one will tend to stay in the safe zone. After the population loss several years ago, you’re not quick to make changes. Try to adapt first, prove adapting failed.

There are a few here who can backup my story.

I don’t know everything, I don’t have all the answers, I’m not going to change the world, just speaking strictly from my own experiences.

[GasTeddy]

Again the same. 11 bish, 4 rooks, 3 knits. R&B gangbang against knits. Logged, may vote with my subscription.

[Dadtallica]

What are you expecting at 630AM???

[GasTeddy]

What are you expecting at 630AM???

So, bishops are allowed to be awake and others not at that time and somehow early hours at US forces gangbanging against knits? Okay, there is logic for sure, it just does not open to a stupid European like me.

[The Fugitive]

So, bishops are allowed to be awake and others not at that time and somehow early hours at US forces gangbanging against knits? Okay, there is logic for sure, it just does not open to a stupid European like me.

You can just ignore the Bish and go fight on the other front. There was a small fight in the south 63-64 maybe?

You do you, you dont have to head into the typhoon everytime you log on.

[Animl-AW]

Again the same. 11 bish, 4 rooks, 3 knits. R&B gangbang against knits. Logged, may vote with my subscription.

Ya, but thats a different tribe than prime time. Little resistance.

[oboe]

Currently, its 20 vs 10 vs 4.   Its the same medium-sized squad that causes the imbalance problem, every day.   If this squad would switch to the low side right now, for example, it would change the balance to 14-10-10.   Not perfect, but much better. 

Its their subscription $$ though, they can play the game how they like.   Seems to me they prefer working together in an almost PvE environment rather than PvP.   That said, I'm sure its fun to be part of a dominant squad that rolls the map regularly.