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[thndregg]

HT changed it without any input from the player base. It just appeared one day. No one asked for it. It wasn’t needed and it’s had adverse effects on game play.

From a business perspective, it happens a lot. Businesses just up and change something without customer input. Been a lot of things I've unsubscribed to or not frequented anymore (like Net(garbage)Flix) as a result, both online and in brick-and-mortar form.

I do miss the old situational awareness (head on a swivel) radar I started out seeing when I first came on in ' 04, with a little mystery sugarcoating of not knowing fully what one was about to deal with. Fairly realistic.

EGG

[Lazerr]

Now that I think about it.. I kind of am on the fence about this.  I want people to see me and try to kill me.

[Skyyr]

Now that I think about it.. I kind of am on the fence about this.  I want people to see me and try to kill me.

Exactly.

And imagine what the more unskilled squads will do. You think the BTs and Checkertails are bad now? Wait until they're unsure of what they'll run into. Kill one of them and they'll all run.

Just saying.

[CAV]

I do miss the old situational awareness

I miss it too. And what is killing me,  is it is alive and well in other Air Combat SIMs. AH is giving me bad habits and made me lazy.

CAV

[Lazerr]

Herr?

Exactly.

And imagine what the more unskilled squads will do. You think the BTs and Checkertails are bad now? Wait until they're unsure of what they'll run into. Kill one of them and they'll all run.

Just saying.

I can also see how the kill by kill buffer and this radar don't jive well.  In the past I thought the kill by kill buffer brought a sense of life to the arena.  This is how it was in the early days FYI.

I stand behind that, but the two combined almost make picking and choosing (or running from) a certain target a little too gamey. 

I stand... on the fence.

[DmonSlyr]

Now that I think about it.. I kind of am on the fence about this.  I want people to see me and try to kill me.

They would though. Just not outside of radar ring range. Atleast if we could start with a small tweak.

I can also see how the kill by kill buffer and this radar don't jive well.  In the past I thought the kill by kill buffer brought a sense of life to the arena.  This is how it was in the early days FYI.

I stand behind that, but the two combined almost make picking and choosing (or running from) a certain target a little too gamey. 

I stand... on the fence.

Yes.

There is simply no reason for a kill message buffer. The landing 2+ kills is award enough. Why the hell do we need to know whose killing who and instantly give away their position, that they can draw on the map and follow their dot... where the guy who just got the kill now has a far less advantage by not knowing whose coming after them while the other can adjust their game accordingly.

[Animl-AW]

There is simply no reason for a kill message buffer. The landing 2+ kills is award enough. Why the hell do we need to know whose killing who and instantly give away their position, that they can draw on the map and follow their dot... where the guy who just got the kill now has a far less advantage by not knowing whose coming after them while the other can adjust their game accordingly.

In AW I think it was just "A kill has been recorded", can't remember if that was to the individual(s) or global. Someone may correct me. I think it incites a spectacle, when it doesn't take much to start that anyway. As you stated, it does open other flood gates.

[BigR]

In AW I think it was just "A kill has been recorded", can't remember if that was to the individual(s) or global. Someone may correct me. I think it incites a spectacle, when it doesn't take much to start that anyway. As you stated, it does open other flood gates.

Yeah i think that was just on your own client when you scored a kill. It was not broadcast on the main chat. That's why lots of people ended up using kill macros to announce kills on their own. I think the only time you would see kills is if someone entered into a duel, it would announce who won.

Then again, its been 30 years. I may be wrong.

[Animl-AW]

Yeah i think that was just on your own client when you scored a kill. It was not broadcast on the main chat. That's why lots of people ended up using kill macros to announce kills on their own. I think the only time you would see kills is if someone entered into a duel, it would announce who won.

Then again, its been 30 years. I may be wrong.

Oh ya, I remember the macros now.
I think you’re right.

[Mayhem]

Yeah i think that was just on your own client when you scored a kill. It was not broadcast on the main chat. That's why lots of people ended up using kill macros to announce kills on their own. I think the only time you would see kills is if someone entered into a duel, it would announce who won.

Then again, its been 30 years. I may be wrong.

In Air Warrior you didn't knew who you shot down or who shot you down until you were back in the tower and checked your score. Then it gave you the last 10 I think.

The feature, If I'm not mistaken was added to AW4W. I don't remember it from the AWDOS in the DOS GEnie Numbered CPID days, but it was in AW4W (At least on AOL) AWClassic (AW4W) AWII AWIII and AWME.

[BigR]

In Air Warrior you didn't knew who you shot down or who shot you down until you were back in the tower and checked your score. Then it gave you the last 10 I think.

The feature, If I'm not mistaken was added to AW4W. I don't remember it from the AWDOS in the DOS GEnie Numbered CPID days, but it was in AW4W (At least on AOL) AWClassic (AW4W) AWII AWIII and AWME.

Ah I see, thanks. I didnt start playing until AW4W.

[The Fugitive]

In AW you DID know who you killed, but it wasnt broadcast that you had killed so and so. the only message was "A kill has been recorded by Fugitive" but it didnt say who you killed. Made it much harder to track a guy across the map.

So with the old radar system you had the line of sight as long as the dar was up. Dot dar was better because you didnt know if you were chasing a buff or a fighter, again "fog of war".

Make radar important again, right now it doesnt matter if its up or down, as long as you have a guy in the space the cons are lit. Goons could hide again landing outside towns or halfway there. With awac system landed or not, just fly in the same half of the sector and you can spot him.

Bump up the total pounds to take out radar to make it a bit tougher to take out, at least a second pass. Make it a target, that makes it something worth defending and give you the time TO defend it. Put some game back into the game.

[Eagler]

I am game for any change to dar ..

Eagler

[guncrasher]

no


semp

[Animl-AW]

Found this old screen shot. Don't recall which version this was. Damn, 30-ish yrs ago.

This was my go at explosions....moving from symmetrical ball type to asymmetrical
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lil hard to read top left corner. "A kill has been recorded", on just my screen, doesn't list Pig as my victim, nor me as shooter.

Notice it's separated, "Pig shot down" but doesn't list who shot him (I did), a global message