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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2024, 12:04:18 AM »
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Just keep making the Tech Pages you do ,,,,, That helped me alot since my return who cares whatever other people say about ya !!!

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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2024, 12:58:42 AM »

Air Warrior - the grandfather of the WWII multiplayer games - had a BBS, similar to this one.  Those who remember better than I do can correct the following (and please do):

Sometime around 1999, the AW Gods tried to run, for the first time, a very large multi-player mission, coordinating things that hadn't previously been coordinated in an online game, basically trying to emulate the real-life WWII Big Week missions of February, 1944.  They set up a separate BBS, similar to this one, for people who were participating in the experiment, to chat among themselves in anticipation of, and in reflections on, the experiment.

The Big Week missions worked, as I recall, although I wasn't able to participate.  But the Bigweek BBS was a huge hit, and people made lots of virtual friends.  You know who you are.

Then came Y2k.  AW eliminated the Bigweek BBS.  I was heartbroken, and wrote a piece about it (if I can ever find it).  But fortunately, the survivors started a new newsgroup, also named "Bigweek," on a Nutscrape server. That worked out well, for years and years, and migrated to different servers.  Many of the people who post on these boards (including Animal) were part of it.

Sadly (IMHO), newsgroups were buried by Facebook, and Trip, who was valiantly hosting the Bigweek NNTS, moved on further in his family's life and couldn't host the newsgroup any longer.  Most of the veterans moved to Facebook but, as I've said, I refrain from joining that social heroin needle.  I miss them, though.  I've met some of them in person over the years (including Shane), and I miss the cameraderie. 

But the AH BBS is the next best thing.  Don't forget that you're making lifelong friends here, even if you never will get a chance to meet them in person.

- oldman

I'm pretty sure the Bigweek scenario was way back in 1997, Oldman. I think you are recalling the Longbow scenario. Bigweek was a "test" scenario to see if the servers could handle the upcoming "auto scenarios" I think. Initially, Kesmai/Gamestorm had newsgroups set up for the Bigweek.allies, Bigweek.axis and Bigweek.general. After the scenario, folks continued post in General because the new message board system set up at Gamestorm was terrible. Before Gamestorm, Air Warrior was using the bulletin Board system on AOL (Homer was the moderator) and alt.games.airwarrior to a lesser extent whose origins pre-dated AOL. Before all of that there was the GEnie message boards starting in 1988.

Kesmai abandoned Bigweek.general after about couple months and Frenchy (Fnchy) setup an NNTP server and kept Bigweek.general alive. A huge number of subscribers including old DOS Air Warrior folks like Dead Duck, Tex, SB, NB, Rocket Man, Fool, Grey Eagle, Moggy, DoK Gonzo even HiTech among many others posted there. Plenty of AOL newbs like DeadF, Rotor, Mage, Flossy, Fidd, Dipsy, Oopsie, LaLa, Seeker, +Mir, +Tiff, Earl, Lone, B17, the one and only Pasha, the great Blesk....the list goes on and on, were posting there as well. TK (DJ Nephew) took over the servers in about late '98.

In 2000, TK no longer wanted to keep the old server up and going so Trip from England took over as he was running an ISP over there and had ample bandwidth and server space. in 2002 EA bought up Kesmai and killed off Air Warrior. Bigweek continued on but folks lost interest, came over here or just got tired of things in there for various reasons. I left there a few months after the game went away. I checked in every once in a while over the years and I think there were a few folks posting as late as 2014.

I know Damned Egger collected everything from the original Bigweek nntp servers all the way up to the demise of TK's server. I'd love to get in touch with him again to see if he still has the .zip file he put it in.

Somewhere in all of that, alt.games.air warrior went away. I think it was about 2001

That's my memory of events but I could be off on the dates a bit. I do remember the NG became popular because the BBS system that Gamestorm set up was atrocious.

And I agree with Oldman as I know a bunch of the core group went to the dumpster fire that is Facebook. I'd like to correspond with some of them but I'm not going in that place.

 Brooke, Flossy or Shane probably have the best recollection of Bigweek and its various dates.

Sorry for all the edits, my memory pulses and fades.



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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2024, 07:54:40 AM »
I love this game, and I love all who play in it...even those who don't.   :cheers: :salute

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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2024, 09:24:47 AM »
Just carry on bcz i dont care

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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2024, 05:49:47 PM »
You are one of the most strange individuals I’ve seen post on this forum in 15 years.

You should put the bottle away before posting…

Sentence of the year on the forums here.  And just consider the full substance of that statement considering some of the others that would be in the running for the title...

Animl you should consider it a shining badge of honor, the game needs strange IMO (I was a big supporter of having He Who Must Not Be Named in the game as I believe(d) this game needed a villain like many other online games I've played always seem to create and have...)
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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2024, 06:06:21 PM »
Sentence of the year on the forums here.  And just consider the full substance of that statement considering some of the others that would be in the running for the title...

Animl you should consider it a shining badge of honor, the game needs strange IMO (I was a big supporter of having He Who Must Not Be Named in the game as I believe(d) this game needed a villain like many other online games I've played always seem to create and have...)

lol Gman. That reminds of this South Park episode.

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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2024, 06:33:04 PM »
Sentence of the year on the forums here.  And just consider the full substance of that statement considering some of the others that would be in the running for the title...

Animl you should consider it a shining badge of honor, the game needs strange IMO (I was a big supporter of having He Who Must Not Be Named in the game as I believe(d) this game needed a villain like many other online games I've played always seem to create and have...)

It needs a squad of early war planes full of very good sticks who are duking it out as the villains. Not what they were...
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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2024, 11:15:43 PM »
I like animl, brings some stories, brings some grit. Brings some 
Film and tries to make the game fun.

Yall too serious, just need to enjoy some company and realise some of us have traumatic experiences and we should listen and entertain their stories.
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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2024, 12:32:33 AM »
Its ok. Ya prolly annoy me too. There’s a lil elitism of purity in the air.

Just for future reference, I’m perfect, in my own way.

I’m sure you are too, in your own head.

I hope I passed the audition, fighting the war FOR you.

Its okay, ya don’t associate yourself with me. Puritans tend to be that way, perfect.

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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2024, 04:46:27 PM »
Bigweek was started with the Air Warrior II Beta test before Kesmai Started Gamestorm. I think it was started for the beta but I'm not 100% on that myself.

The jump from Air Warrior II to III was extremely easy and happened shortly after however, Kesmai only offfered AWII to other services like AOL as Air Warrior III itself, which was just AWII with 3d Skins, that Kesmai's reserved exclusively for it's upcoming Gamestorm gaming service. When EA purchased it they reskinned it the Krait's skin changer and branded it as AWMV.

Not sure how Bigweek survived Air Warrior and Kesmia but it was still going into the late 2010s.
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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2024, 05:31:09 PM »
Bigweek was started with the Air Warrior II Beta test before Kesmai Started Gamestorm. I think it was started for the beta but I'm not 100% on that myself.

The jump from Air Warrior II to III was extremely easy and happened shortly after however, Kesmai only offfered AWII to other services like AOL as Air Warrior III itself, which was just AWII with 3d Skins, that Kesmai's reserved exclusively for it's upcoming Gamestorm gaming service. When EA purchased it they reskinned it the Krait's skin changer and branded it as AWMV.

Not sure how Bigweek survived Air Warrior and Kesmia but it was still going into the late 2010s.


Some form of 3D updating happened, I gave Blue Baron (and/or GE) my updated copy of 3D Max Pro to model something. Can’t remember which version of AW tho.
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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2024, 05:56:06 PM »


Some form of 3D updating happened, I gave Blue Baron (and/or GE) my updated copy of 3D Max Pro to model something. Can’t remember which version of AW tho.

AWIII or AW3D as some like to abbreviate it was basically Air Warrior II with 3d Skins not much more. Wasn't much in the way upgrading as the two games where identical in every other way. You could actually take parts of II like the 2d cockpits and dump them into AirWarrior III and they would work, That being said you could NOT take the 3d bitmap skins From AWIII and drop them into AWII and get them to work.

Basically AWIII was AWII With 3d Bitmap skins on everything.

As far as I know AWII and AWIII both had their "Bigweek" beta test.

Everyone got Air Warrior classic (AW4W) AWII was only offered to other services like AOL (Gamestorm did not offer AWII) and AWIII was exclusively Gamestorm's until EA purchased it.

The original Bigweek NNTP sever was for Beta Testing and Special Events. I thought it was originally made and ran buy Kesmai. It was active as a player forum as a part of the community but not controlled by Kesmai during Gamestorms run.

Again not sure how it passed hands (I think Frenchy had it first) but the Bigweek NNTP was active for longer than Air Warrior was even around. (12-13 years for all versions of Air Warrior and around 20 years for Bigweek)

I stopped being active on the Bigweek NNTP back around the late 2000's early 2010's.

I think I still have a bunch of the post in a back up, but the one Damned Egger has is much much bigger than the Backup I have. Maybe I will share mine but I wouldn't hold your breath, it took me 26 years to post the AWCON98 Sign in Sheets.
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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2024, 12:47:31 AM »
O club post at best, if anywhere .. not here

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 Nothing more needs to be said. Lame troll and bait only a poor stick newb like you would lay it all out the way you did. I'm not going to bite because you just aren't worth it...
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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2024, 07:08:01 AM »
Nothing more needs to be said. Lame troll and bait only a poor stick newb like you would lay it all out the way you did. I'm not going to bite because you just aren't worth it...
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Well now,
Pretty sure 1989 came before 2004 and 2000 before 04.
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I’m glad you didn’t reply with an insult to prove my point while replying with an insult to prove my point.

You’re not worth your approval or opinion.

Ya it should go right next to political post in OClub.

Haters need to get over themselves, but prove why lithium was invented.

We’re having an adult convo here, wait in line.

This thread was meant as tongue n cheek scroll-by.

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Re: To those I seem to annoy
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2024, 07:40:30 AM »
I seem to remember getting air warrior in a box and it was called "svga air warrior" at that time.