In case there was any confusion…

[MDStampf93]

It is possible to fight in the MA without HOing everything, every single pass… just saying.

That is all.

 

[The Fugitive]

It is possible to fight in the MA without HOing everything, every single pass… just saying.

That is all.

 

Nope.

[Animl-AW]

It is possible to fight in the MA without HOing everything, every single pass… just saying.

That is all.

 

I’v been sayin since my return it’s #1 ACM with some, epidemic.

Rarely do I not get HO/Ram.  Ya have to maneuver around any nose to nose merge. Nose down build E loop up and over on their 6 as soon as they pass.

[DmonSlyr]

Just do a zigzag pattern as you are moving toward them and cross under their nose as you pull up into an immelman, you'll always have the advantage generally if they try to HO because you got the jump on the angle.

[DFATITAN]

For a long time, I never HO'd and it seemed like a lot of others didn't either. We'd pass each other and then take whatever ACM was appropriate (mine usually ended in "you chose poorly").  I do my best to avoid them, but I feel it's the default anymore.  I fly a Mossie most times so if it looks like I've got a HO'er, I'm more than happy to oblige.

Didn't AW have a no-HO setting in one of the arenas?

[Shuffler]

Time for a ho down..... grab your partner swing her around....

[FGBullet]

I try not to Ho on first pass but seem to have lead flying my way about 80% of the time. Been Hoed so much I'm considering getting a pimp. 

[Animl-AW]

For a long time, I never HO'd and it seemed like a lot of others didn't either. We'd pass each other and then take whatever ACM was appropriate (mine usually ended in "you chose poorly").  I do my best to avoid them, but I feel it's the default anymore.  I fly a Mossie most times so if it looks like I've got a HO'er, I'm more than happy to oblige.

Didn't AW have a no-HO setting in one of the arenas?

I don’t recall AW having an anti HO setting, but someone may remember one.

In AW is was just an unwritten rule to NOT HO and was considered shameful, the baby seal tards. They did happen but nowhere near as much as AH.


One country here is common to be 20k and HOing.

YKW HOed a LOT.

Here soon as I see a Typh, 109 or Mossie I just assume I’m going to get HOed

[Oldman731]

I don’t recall AW having an anti HO setting, but someone may remember one.

In AW is was just an unwritten rule to NOT HO and was considered shameful, the baby seal tards. They did happen but nowhere near as much as AH.

Someone with a better memory than mine will provide the actual explanation.  My recollection is that, for a variety of programming issues, HO shots didn't work most of the time, and were random the rest of the time.  So if you connected on a HO, it was blind luck.  Hence the stigma of taking a shot just on the chance that it might work.

You'll also remember that you could fly right through the enemy aeroplane, with no collision problems.  There were a number of AW people who had worked this out to a formula, and they were not pleased when it didn't happen in AH.

- oldman

[guncrasher]

Someone with a better memory than mine will provide the actual explanation.  My recollection is that, for a variety of programming issues, HO shots didn't work most of the time, and were random the rest of the time.  So if you connected on a HO, it was blind luck.  Hence the stigma of taking a shot just on the chance that it might work.

You'll also remember that you could fly right through the enemy aeroplane, with no collision problems.  There were a number of AW people who had worked this out to a formula, and they were not pleased when it didn't happen in AH.

- oldman

to many years ago but one of the aw guys said something like an RNG for a ho shot.   hitech might know more about that.


semp

[The Fugitive]

I don’t recall AW having an anti HO setting, but someone may remember one.

In AW is was just an unwritten rule to NOT HO and was considered shameful, the baby seal tards. They did happen but nowhere near as much as AH.


One country here is common to be 20k and HOing.

YKW HOed a LOT.

Here soon as I see a Typh, 109 or Mossie I just assume I’m going to get HOed

I think there was something with the hit bubble that canceled HO but the cone was pretty small so some did try to get that magic bullet.

The difference I think was any who took HO shots in AW were ridiculed to death and the embarrassment was enough to teach them it wasnt a cool thing to do.

to many years ago but one of the aw guys said something like an RNG for a ho shot.   hitech might know more about that.


semp

What is an RNG?

[Lusche]

hat is an RNG?

Randomizer ("Random Number Generator")

[Animl-AW]

I think there was something with the hit bubble that canceled HO but the cone was pretty small so some did try to get that magic bullet.

The difference I think was any who took HO shots in AW were ridiculed to death and the embarrassment was enough to teach them it wasnt a cool thing to do.

What is an RNG?

As mentioned several times,…I actually worked on the hit bubble, then converting to surface strikes. Damage model was one of my big things working for Kesmai/AW.  I probably got deeper into it than most. I spent obsessive amount of time getting realism out of it. Finally got there, RR begged for it then didn’t like realism, FR begged for it and loved it. Pretty sure I had dreams about the coding lol

The hit bubble worked on a randomizer. The strikes closer to center randomized a different set of damage. In other words how many strikes you made the more intense it randomized your damage, center was pretty much instant kill. The strike number went to a different part of the table container.   So it was very hard to regulate HOs. I don’t recall being able to distinguish front or rear strikes in the hit bubble. Moving onto the surface strike damage model it was easier to disregard HOs, but in my work, was not done. I think i stant kill was the same damage option for HO. I think if I canceled HO it took out instant kill option on other shots.

It was big discussion often. But you are correct, you’d be shamed into the abyss, but few did it anyway, and shamed. In FR it was even more harsh.

[Animl-AW]

to many years ago but one of the aw guys said something like an RNG for a ho shot.   hitech might know more about that.


semp

I don’t think HT was interested in the hit bubble. Not sure what or if he had clearance,.., but if I recall, HT invented the gun cam for AW.

HT was so good he made those inside nervous to give him access to the core coding. For what ever reason, bringing HT in didn’t work out. Be glad of that, he and pyro went off and made this. Actually a better game.

Memory is slippin into darkness

[Animl-AW]

Someone with a better memory than mine will provide the actual explanation.  My recollection is that, for a variety of programming issues, HO shots didn't work most of the time, and were random the rest of the time.  So if you connected on a HO, it was blind luck.  Hence the stigma of taking a shot just on the chance that it might work.

You'll also remember that you could fly right through the enemy aeroplane, with no collision problems.  There were a number of AW people who had worked this out to a formula, and they were not pleased when it didn't happen in AH.

- oldman

Yes, thats pretty close to how it worked. When I got my hands on the damage model I could tell not a lot of thought was put into it. Kinda generic settings.