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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #135 on: December 05, 2024, 12:53:56 PM »
Hispanos are the best cannons in the game. Amazing how many folks don't fly the hurricane w/ 4 20s. It actually outurns the spits too.  :old:

Hurricane is a low-med alt AC design. Was mostly used for ground assault. Because of its thick wings it had some performance issues compared to other planes. But ya, those guns are lethal.

Depends what planes its up against and who is flying them. I’ve seen a few Hurricanes tear it up

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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #136 on: December 05, 2024, 03:14:25 PM »
Hurricane is a low-med alt AC design. Was mostly used for ground assault. Because of its thick wings it had some performance issues compared to other planes. But ya, those guns are lethal.

Depends what planes its up against and who is flying them. I’ve seen a few Hurricanes tear it up

All it takes is one overshoot, and those bullets aren't rubber  :devil But, one certainly has to learn the lost art of the defensive counterpunch.
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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #137 on: December 05, 2024, 06:18:53 PM »
Why not completely throw away the perk system. Give every player 1000 perks a month with no way of earning more until the next month. Use them how you choose, equal playing field.
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« Reply #138 on: December 06, 2024, 10:38:18 AM »
Why not completely throw away the perk system. Give every player 1000 perks a month with no way of earning more until the next month. Use them how you choose, equal playing field.

Very social.... I prefer they have to EARN them. LOL
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« Reply #139 on: December 06, 2024, 12:13:51 PM »

Watching how people "earn" their perks gives good insight into their personality.

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« Reply #140 on: December 06, 2024, 12:27:38 PM »
Watching how people "earn" their perks gives good insight into their personality.

I rarely use perks. I earned most all of mine by not even paying attention to them and just flying my P38J. I can't check now but about 7 or 8 months back I looked and had around 60,000. I just do not use them. I know folks with more....
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« Reply #141 on: December 06, 2024, 07:37:18 PM »
Very social.... I prefer they have to EARN them. LOL

Absolutely Shuff. Can't have those evil commies taking over now can we? Though 15 bucks could also be seen as earning some perks every month. If everyone has the same quantity of perk planes every month well then there can be no complaints who flies them. That Tempest pilot who makes it through until the end of the month without destroying his aircraft would be worthy of some genuine praise.

Get vulched by a 262 on week four of the month? Well why hasn't the server shot them all down yet? Perk plane hunting would become a great sport again, making perk plane abusers now rethink all the attention they are getting.

While we are at it, put a perk cost on half the planeset. The end of every tour would be early war heaven with furballs on the deck again.
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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #142 on: December 07, 2024, 01:06:12 AM »
I see what you are saying. Why not make the shells more powerfull while you are at it so folks can get more kills. We can also make the planes easier to fly. We can also.... oh wait, we already get multiple lives.....
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« Reply #143 on: December 07, 2024, 05:58:13 AM »
I see. Well at present you just get people vulching squad mates to farm perks. If you think that is the best method for arena balance then I suppose this thread is moot
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« Reply #144 on: December 07, 2024, 06:55:42 AM »
Every plane should be perked..

Every sortie should produce perks..

Perk planes should cost 10x the perks for those of us that have experience and aren't newbies while perk planes should be cheaper for the novice

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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #145 on: December 07, 2024, 09:52:31 AM »

I thought he was funny in 'Taxi'

If your not having fun, change your vector :airplane: What really chaps my saddle is those thuggs parked on Battle ships.
I think players could be encouraged to form squads on country teams to get a perk plane{s} or set. Similar to a game called 'Squad'. Of course I didn't think this through all the way. Shock and Awe did work.

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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #146 on: December 07, 2024, 10:20:21 AM »
Why not completely throw away the perk system. Give every player 1000 perks a month with no way of earning more until the next month. Use them how you choose, equal playing field.

How would that level the playing field? All that would do would give the better players an advantage due to their skill in perked planes vs the newb/average player.

Absolutely Shuff. Can't have those evil commies taking over now can we? Though 15 bucks could also be seen as earning some perks every month. If everyone has the same quantity of perk planes every month well then there can be no complaints who flies them. That Tempest pilot who makes it through until the end of the month without destroying his aircraft would be worthy of some genuine praise.

...or ridiculed for being a wuss/runner who avoids any type of fight unless he has all the advantages. We have enough of those already.

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Get vulched by a 262 on week four of the month? Well why hasn't the server shot them all down yet? Perk plane hunting would become a great sport again, making perk plane abusers now rethink all the attention they are getting.

You have more opportunities to hunt perk planes now. Go with the limited number of perks per month and they will be far less chances.

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While we are at it, put a perk cost on half the planeset. The end of every tour would be early war heaven with furballs on the deck again.

I think the whole perk system should be revamped. Some planes need their perks lowered like the Yak while other need them raised. Last tour the T34/85 had 8323 kills, 5 times more than the next tank, the Panzer IV. Heck, the T34 had 3.5 times the number of kills the Pony had....can we say Aces LOW?

Bat, when was the last time you flew in the MA? It has changed a lot from the old days. If your not flying a fast plane you dont have a lot of chances at a kill let alone a fight. Its too bad, the old days had more variety of planes/fights which kept the interest high. Todays players are afraid to die and are after just the kill counts. Even any changes to the perk system will come across as HTC saying "you cant fly what you want any more", and we certainty dont want to see that.

Not that I would think HTC would do this, but I think but maybe tie the perks into your subscription. At the end of each tour you could earn a percentage of a discount to your monthly subscription cost, 5%, 10%, or maybe 20% off. Of course there would have to be a set range tied to the number of hours played per tour or these guys playing 100 hours would always hit the the most off. Make a contest out of it. Instead of buying your way to an advantage you could work your way to a discount of your subscription. And what better way to earn those perks than flying mid and early war planes.

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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #147 on: December 07, 2024, 11:54:34 AM »
It's been a fair number of years Fugi, granted. I'm completely out of touch with the game.
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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #148 on: December 07, 2024, 12:51:04 PM »
You can always come back!  :joystick:

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Re: GET OUT OF THE NOOB PLANES
« Reply #149 on: December 07, 2024, 12:54:05 PM »
It's been a fair number of years Fugi, granted. I'm completely out of touch with the game.

Return after a long hiatus has that effect, especially if you started that break in AH2. You’r not alone.

>IMO< I think a lot were chased away by the gamer point\kill monger over the casual flyer just looking for good fights. Some may have publicly broadcasted leaving over settings, but those are just the louder ones trying to put pressure on HT to get THEIR way.

When we look at settings and game play design of other sims AH settings are not a deal breakers.

So my main question is: “Compared to what?”.

The more the MA fills up, the more these settings start working.

So IMO, the real goal is to get numbers up and welcome those into the fold, properly.

Honestly, not one of these “bad settings” actually bother me enough to get upset about them.