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Offline Busher

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Off Map
« on: December 08, 2024, 04:42:39 PM »
Seems there are those that will fly hours off map to achieve their goals.

At best,I would like to see something like an automatic disco for leaving the boundaries of the map - or at least a downdraft off map that prevents altitudes above 5,000 feet.

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Re: Off Map
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2024, 08:11:08 AM »
Are you sure there aren't any films of you doing it? 

Not saying it out of disrespect but I was going through my old films from 2014 and found one of me doing it. 

I used to love hunting people off map.
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Re: Off Map
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2024, 12:00:05 PM »
Off map flying should be off limits OR have your icon appear as if you are on radar to other teams.

I see some that rely on flying off map to avoid any interaction and its just silly that nothing has been done about it.
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Re: Off Map
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2024, 12:06:26 PM »
I never understood why the maps didn't have 80k walls on all 4 sides. Not sure how easy or hard that would be to implement. 
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Re: Off Map
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2024, 03:08:09 PM »
I never understood why the maps didn't have 80k walls on all 4 sides. Not sure how easy or hard that would be to implement.

It's not hard to do, just tedious.

I think there is a limit to the height of map features.  It seems to be 32k (or something like that).  The map I am currently working on has a 25k+ wall on all four sides.  Also a  couple of my maps have high mountain walls near the strats to prevent NOE off-map strat raids -- maybe the lamest gaming of the game.



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Re: Off Map
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2024, 04:36:02 PM »
Been thinking about using the Cloud editor to set an overcast at each strat, with limited clear skies. With Fronts functioning on an hourly cycle you should be able to set the overcast duration to what ever you want. Not sure that is the best way or not. I like the idea of high mountains for blocking, off map access.
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Re: Off Map
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2024, 05:32:40 PM »
That sounds like a ceiling.

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Re: Off Map
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2024, 08:19:50 PM »
Yes it would be, but it would vary with the Weather Front movement, Overcast skies, to broken clouds, to clear skies. Then repeat.

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Re: Off Map
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2024, 02:28:02 AM »
What if players actually decided to defend their strats?

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Re: Off Map
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2024, 06:49:52 AM »
What if players actually decided to defend their strats?
It is done a lot more nowadays. More often than not the only thing keeping is if ENY is to high to take a jet. It is almost impossible to catch B29s at 30k even in a TA152 if you fall short of meeting them at alt.



I think there is a limit to the height of map features.  It seems to be 32k (or something like that).  The map I am currently working on has a 25k+ wall on all four sides.  Also a  couple of my maps have high mountain walls near the strats to prevent NOE off-map strat raids -- maybe the lamest gaming of the game.

I like the idea of the high mountain walls around strats but the 25k will not keep those that take heavy fighters off map.
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Re: Off Map
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2024, 12:36:07 PM »

I actually proved a point many years ago by shooting down a 28k b29 with an I16. 

Once I found out B29s were in play, I usually made and ate lunch and watched their progress so I could vulch them on landing but many planes can catch B29s. 

P47 D-11, P47M, P51b and possibly D model, a few F4u models, a BF110 without the cannon bulge on the bottom and no rockets, a mosquito fighter,  P-38s, multiple 190s and 109s, Spitfire IX and XIV, TA52.

All planes listed have no trouble catching a high B-29 but it requires planning and patience......both of which are lacking in the arena.


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Re: Off Map
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2024, 01:09:07 PM »
What if players actually decided to defend their strats?

We have a plane capable of helping players defend their strats in an emergency state, it’s just not been adjusted to correlate with the HQ changes = making AA #1 strat target. For some reason it’s also restricted by ENY even though it only be flown from one base.

I forget what it’s purpose is under these restraints.  :headscratch:
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Re: Off Map
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2024, 01:39:31 PM »
I actually proved a point many years ago by shooting down a 28k b29 with an I16. 

Once I found out B29s were in play, I usually made and ate lunch and watched their progress so I could vulch them on landing but many planes can catch B29s. 

P47 D-11, P47M, P51b and possibly D model, a few F4u models, a BF110 without the cannon bulge on the bottom and no rockets, a mosquito fighter,  P-38s, multiple 190s and 109s, Spitfire IX and XIV, TA52.

All planes listed have no trouble catching a high B-29 but it requires planning and patience......both of which are lacking in the arena.

So you vukched an empty bomber?  The cool thing to do these days is resupply strats.  As big of a non fan of that I am, it would be more effective than your approach.  A little less tardy too.....

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Re: Off Map
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2024, 02:30:59 PM »
Yep.....shot down one at 30k feet in a spit XIV, lost a machine gun on left wing, and rearmed so I could chase him 5 sectors deep into his territory at 6k feet.   While he went on at 30k I was below him.
 
He whined for help but theP47 couldn't save him when  I found him next to his strats.

I wouldn't have done it if not for his smack talk.

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Re: Off Map
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2024, 03:02:49 PM »
Yep.....shot down one at 30k feet in a spit XIV, lost a machine gun on left wing, and rearmed so I could chase him 5 sectors deep into his territory at 6k feet.   While he went on at 30k I was below him.
 
He whined for help but theP47 couldn't save him when  I found him next to his strats.

I wouldn't have done it if not for his smack talk.

You have to send the message that milkrunners will not be getting home.

A milk runner is someone that flys around in buffs bombing towns without intent to take them.  A milk runner is not someone bombing a strategical target in the game.