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[AKIron]

I think your "cinematography" is great. Getting more viewers will require drawing from other much larger audiences I think, as I've said before.

For example, 89K views in 22 hours. https://youtu.be/5EHBCB4JNOk?si=iHoEezS-sdm6IZk2

[The Fugitive]

I think your "cinematography" is great. Getting more viewers will require drawing from other much larger audiences I think, as I've said before.

For example, 89K views in 22 hours. https://youtu.be/5EHBCB4JNOk?si=iHoEezS-sdm6IZk2

Not being into jets I cant figure how he can get that many views so quick. I did watch the whole thing and while "pretty" it wasnt very fun looking at that fight. Radar lock, fire a missile, dump chaff, avoid return shot while dodging trees, and repeat until one guy is dead.

Why would so many bother watch that?

[hazmatt]

Yak3s never die, they just tower and re-up

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Well done! I especially liked the music. I usually mute it but I enjoyed that one

[Kruel]

Why would so many bother watch that?

I think this is probably the biggest disconnect I've seen with this community, in my time here. Players here don't seem to comprehend that there's a difference between what they (the average AH player) like and what aviation gamers in general are attracted to.

Your youtube links to other channels shows this too. The channels that have Aces High content with the biggest number of views are:

• vuduvince with 358k views (who plays games other than AH)
• horble/herptyderpty with 124k views (who plays mostly IL2)
• skyyr with 96k views (the only one in your list with almost entirely AH content)
• dolby with 95k views (who plays a ton of other games and most of his AH content is very cinematic)

There's a theme here. The top AH channels in your own list have mostly non-AH content, and the one guy that has almost entirely AH content was told that his content wasn't what here in AH people liked (montages, combat highlights). So pretty much, the most popular channels have content that the players here say is uninteresting: other sims and games, and competitive-focused fast-paced killing.

That should tell you what people enjoy watching, outside of the echo chamber here. People like modernized, graphic intensive sims, cinematics, and they become invested in actual competitive gameplay.

YouTube tells you what people are looking for. You have to match your content to the viewers if you're trying to attract more, not-vice-versa.

[AKIron]

Not being into jets I cant figure how he can get that many views so quick. I did watch the whole thing and while "pretty" it wasnt very fun looking at that fight. Radar lock, fire a missile, dump chaff, avoid return shot while dodging trees, and repeat until one guy is dead.

Why would so many bother watch that?

People who do it and know how difficult it can be enjoy watching it. Of course it isn't just the content of that one video that draws his crowd. He makes a lot of videos doing different things.

There's a lot more going on in that video than is apparent to someone who hasn't engaged in those sorts of fights. Notice there are no labels/icons shouting "here I am!" In an F-16 vs a SU-57, 50 year old plane vs 15 year old, most will be dead before they ever see the SU-57.

Tom Cruise made a great movie in Top Gun 2 but an F-14 vs even a single SU-57 would have ended much differently in reality.

[hazmatt]

Radar lock, fire a missile, dump chaff, avoid return shot while dodging trees

I watched the video and I thought it was pretty good. I think the difference is when you fight with jets it's a completely different fight. It's exactly this:
"Radar lock, fire a missile, dump chaff, avoid return shot while dodging trees"
with the addition of sometimes getting in a gun shot.

The difference from his fight and mine is I would have tried to bug out if I was out of flares and missiles as pushing the fight with no flares and no missiles against a Felon with an F-16 isn't likely to end well.

It's a different kind of fight, not better, not worse.

 

[AKIron]

Where do you hope to draw new AH players from? Your most likely pool is from people who like combat simulators.

A thousand views in 15 mins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Wj1smf7hU

Tapping into this fountain somehow likely won't yield a lot of new players but it's your best bet.

[AKIron]

I watched the video and I thought it was pretty good. I think the difference is when you fight with jets it's a completely different fight. It's exactly this:
"Radar lock, fire a missile, dump chaff, avoid return shot while dodging trees"
with the addition of sometimes getting in a gun shot.

The difference from his fight and mine is I would have tried to bug out if I was out of flares and missiles as pushing the fight with no flares and no missiles against a Felon with an F-16 isn't likely to end well.

It's a different kind of fight, not better, not worse.

He said at the beginning that getting a lock with the F-16 before getting killed by the Felon is an achievement.

[haggerty]

When I had two Oculus Rifts for my kids I had considered setting up a 1v1 dogfight booth at airshows where I was stationed.  It wasn't going to be very expensive to setup and would draw some crowds if done right.  Main problem I was going to face was cleaning them between users, and explaining the UI for every person that came up.  Setting up the majority of everything with a mouse and keyboard controlled by the demonstrator would be needed, and a large screen for spectators.

[hazmatt]

He said at the beginning that getting a lock with the F-16 before getting killed by the Felon is an achievement.

Huh? I never said he didn't fight it well. I just said that if it was me in that fight I would have looked for the exit as soon as I was out of flares and fox3s. Not sure what you mean by that comment.

[AKIron]

Huh? I never said he didn't fight it well. I just said that if it was me in that fight I would have looked for the exit as soon as I was out of flares and fox3s. Not sure what you mean by that comment.

My point was getting the radar lock isn't automatic as it may appear. Even with aircraft of the same generation getting a lock and keeping it can require skill in the game.

The video GS just posted a half hour ago is the sort of engagement I prefer. Not 1 on 1, which can be fun, but isn't reality. Fighting Migs when SAMs and AAA want a piece of you requires SA you won't find in 1 on 1 or air to air guns only.

[hazmatt]

My point was getting the radar lock isn't automatic as it may appear. Even with aircraft of the same generation getting a lock and keeping it can require skill in the game.

The video GS just posted a half hour ago is the sort of engagement I prefer. Not 1 on 1, which can be fun, but isn't reality. Fighting Migs when SAMs and AAA want a piece of you requires SA you won't find in 1 on 1 or air to air guns only.

Ya, keeping a lock with a fox 1 is even tougher then slinging fox 3s.. I'm well aware. I fly the jets too.

The worst are the mobile SAMs. They'll be driving down the road and will have their radar off until they light it up to shoot you giving you basically no warning.

You're "explaining" to me like I've never fought in the jets and I assure you I've got a bunch of hours fighting in jets.

[AKIron]

Ya, keeping a lock with a fox 2 is even tougher then slinging fox 3s.. I'm well aware. I fly the jets too.

The worst are the mobile SAMs. They'll be driving down the road and will have their radar off until they light it up to shoot you giving you basically no warning.

You're "explaining" to me like I've never fought in the jets and I assure you I've got a bunch of hours fighting in jets.

I wasn't just "explaining to you". There are those here who may have played jet sims twenty years ago and think because GS makes it look easy you just click the target on the radar screen and fox 3.  Some that have dipped their toes in current modern jet sims get frustrated when getting killed and never having seen the enemy. The learning curve is steep.

I'd bet Growling Sidewinder runs some of the missions in his videos several times before recording. Setting up a mission and practicing it does give you an edge.

[AKIron]

It's a tangent to argue whether one should or shouldn't like GS videos. The fact is many thousands of people do. How can you show some of those people AH? They are your most likely recruits. If I'm wrong tell me where you'll find more?

3.5K views in an hour. The people who watch these play the game. They like air combat.

[AKIron]

More people do watch MSFS videos than either DCS or IL-2. At least that was the case. A video tying those two together somehow might see thousands of views.

195K views for this one. Don't ask me why.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i995PyuYseU?feature=share