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Offline Morpheus

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I feel old and rusty by asking
« on: January 09, 2025, 08:53:40 AM »
It's been a while since I've built a system, so I need to ask you what company you recommend the most for me to use to purchase a new processor?

And what do you recommend for me to have it installed?
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2025, 09:18:54 AM »
It's been a while since I've built a system, so I need to ask you what company you recommend the most for me to use to purchase a new processor?

And what do you recommend for me to have it installed?

Are you looking to build a whole new system? You might have to as it isn't as simple as just changing the CPU. You'll be limited by your current motherboard and the CPU socket on it which will determine what CPU you could even put on it. If it's fairly ancient, you might play hell finding a CPU for it. Oh, it can be done. My "hoopty" PC was a frankenbuild of stuff I got mostly off Ebay. Last of the Mohicans Asus AGP gaming P4 board, a 3.4ghz P4 CPU with a last of the Mohicans 1gb AGP video card and 4gb or Mushkin redline ram.  It would have been tip of the spear type build in about 2000! I use it to run Air Warrior but not good for anything modern. Think I put DOSBOX on it too. Haven't started it in a while. I've built two others since. An intel and my current AMD X570.

If I were to build a new system now I'd go with AMD, AM5 socket mobot and one of the x3d CPUs for gaming.
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2025, 09:26:10 AM »
Oh and I'd add---be prepared for extreme sticker shock! sayin!
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2025, 09:50:39 AM »
Are you looking to build a whole new system? You might have to as it isn't as simple as just changing the CPU. You'll be limited by your current motherboard and the CPU socket on it which will determine what CPU you could even put on it. If it's fairly ancient, you might play hell finding a CPU for it. Oh, it can be done. My "hoopty" PC was a frankenbuild of stuff I got mostly off Ebay. Last of the Mohicans Asus AGP gaming P4 board, a 3.4ghz P4 CPU with a last of the Mohicans 1gb AGP video card and 4gb or Mushkin redline ram.  It would have been tip of the spear type build in about 2000! I use it to run Air Warrior but not good for anything modern. Think I put DOSBOX on it too. Haven't started it in a while. I've built two others since. An intel and my current AMD X570.

If I were to build a new system now I'd go with AMD, AM5 socket mobot and one of the x3d CPUs for gaming.

Yeah I sat and thought about that too. I can always just donate this box to Goodwill or something like that. My sister might want it. just going to have to write 0 fist then give it to her...  :airplane: ;)
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2025, 10:13:38 AM »
My latest builds have used parts from Amazon and Newegg

This site is helpful to insure parts work together: https://pcpartpicker.com/

Best of luck!

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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2025, 10:18:40 AM »
The current top gaming cpu, Ryzen 7 9800X3D, will take you a while to find. Should go for around $470. Brother ordered one somewhere, will get it in Feb.

Here's one sooner but maybe more money.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DKFMSMYK?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2025, 10:32:30 AM »
This list might help you decide:https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html#section-best-cpu-for-gaming-in-2025-at-a-glance-more-info-below

A benchmark score is one thing, capability to run current and near future games is another. Scrolling the image to see how a CPU ranks in various tests and conditions is worth checking, the winner isn't always the same.
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2025, 11:00:47 AM »
I have a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and an RTX 3070. It's rare I see the CPU is the bottleneck but it does happen.
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2025, 11:01:58 AM »
Many parameters need to be set to answer the OP question.

Budget.  Requirements. Etcs.

I got my 9800x3d a few weeks ago, it's a bit faster than my 7800x3d, but it's not shockingly faster, so if you don't want to wait weeks or potentially months for  9800 going 7800 isn't a bad option still, plus you can just pop the CPU out and put in a new 9800 later as they use the same board and socket type.

IF price/$ is an issue, IMO despite all the crap talking on Intel, the 14600KF chip is a great performer for the discount $ you can get it for now, and it overclocks really well with a decent AIO cooler.  The motherboards are cheap for these too, you can get a really good one with 3 or 4 SSD slots for a couple hundred bucks now. 

Big thing is the GPU, the new 50 series RTX cards are coming in just a few weeks, jury is still out on reviews for now, but it looks like the 5070/ti series should be a good bang/$.  Depending on the market, there may be some good deals on the previous 40 gen series of GPUs in both the new and used market if having the latest and greatest isn't important to you.

Of course what games/stuff the PC will be used for primarily is a major factor to consider.  AH is not very demanding, but if you play DCS or some of the AAA titles out there, and/or use virtually reality, getting a 5080/90 and a fast CPU is going to be a better experience IMO.

CPU/GPU are always the 2 most important components, it's like range/wind for long range shooting, by far the 2 most critical thigs to ensure are right for what you want to do.  Once you figure that out, it's just a matter of picking the supporting components, and there are a ton of "right" selections in each category these days.
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2025, 11:07:34 AM »
Being semi-retired I can't afford to stay on the bleeding edge anymore. I'm hoping the RTX 5000 series will drop the prices on the 4000 series. I'd gladly buy a 4070 Super/TI for around $350.
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2025, 05:45:32 PM »
Yeah I sat and thought about that too. I can always just donate this box to Goodwill or something like that. My sister might want it. just going to have to write 0 fist then give it to her...  :airplane: ;)

Old systems make great Plex servers...

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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2025, 12:41:27 PM »
Old systems make great Plex servers...
Indeed.... and they can be quite old and still work great.
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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2025, 10:51:18 PM »
Oh and I'd add---be prepared for extreme sticker shock! sayin!

Amen! I know I was and am especially over the price of GPUs.

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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2025, 11:14:06 PM »
I ordered a new Ryzen 5 5600x yesterday. Haven't made up my mind on the motherboard. I've heard the only difference between an ATX and mATX are the number of expansion slots. Ram may be the Corsair Vengeance, at least 16gig. Not sure about the SSD card. Hopefully the power supply and case will come from my old computer, Big Red. That is unless I can get it to work well. Then I will get a cool new case and PS. Big Red has an FF error on the motherboard.

No matter what a new build will be huge upgrade from Big Red which I believe is about 15 years old. It's tired!

Good luck on your build Morpheus!

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Re: I feel old and rusty by asking
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2025, 12:58:54 AM »
Haven't made up my mind on the motherboard. I've heard the only difference between an ATX and mATX are the number of expansion slots.
Don't know about current ones but mATX also used to be of thinner materials. For sure ATX has more space around components to allow better cooling.
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