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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #165 on: February 17, 2025, 03:03:54 PM »
See that's crazy to me because if I go about 8 hours without eating. I've got a headache and I get very irritable. Do you believe it's just something you have to start slowly and over time get to that level of say even 1 day? Is it a metabolism thing? Or is that the bodies reaction to not having the "drug" sorta speak and having withdrawals from say sugar and carbs?

I think it varies person to person.  I would suggest reading "Fast, feast, repeat", by Stephens, for suggestions on how work your way into intermittent fasting.

I think it is possible to work into it.

For example, lots of people are having carbs every 2 hours during all waking hours:  breakfast, snack, snack, lunch, snack, snack, dinner, snack, snack, bed.  And drinking something with sugar all throughout the day.  And getting out of that can be done gradually instead of all at once.

For me, when I look back on it, I went through these steps:

1.  Cut out ALL sugary beverages and ALL artificially sweetened beverages.  No soda, no fruit juice, no energy drinks, no diet Coke, no flavored coffee, no herbal or flavored teas, no vanilla flavor added, no squeeze of lemon, no sprinkle of cinnamon -- none of that.  Drink water, black tea, green tea, black coffee ONLY. Do just that change for a couple of weeks to get used to it.  It took me 2 weeks until I wasn't craving sugary beverages.  It was eye opening to me how that worked.

Just get past that first, then:

2.  Cut out all snacking between meals.

3.  In your meals, reduce sugar and carbs some.  Increase meat, eggs, animal fat, and good plant oils (olive, coconut, avocado, and/or palm), green vegetables.  Don't have to go cold turkey, and go to nothing but meat and greens.  That could be too hard and cause you to quit rather than just modify to a level you are OK with and succeed.

Get used to that, and then:

4.  Try moving the meals you eat closer together in time.  Have the window in which you are eating be 10 hours instead of 12.  Or 8 hours instead of 10.  Do not eat any calories or any flavorings or any artificial sweeteners outside that eating window.  No flavored beverages (like herbal tea or flavored coffee).  Outside your eating window, it's ONLY water, black tea, green tea, and black coffee.

5.  Once able to move eating window to be 6-8 hours, try once in a while (once a week, or whatever) a day where you eat only one big meal that day.  Again, nothing other than water, tea, coffee (no sugar, no artificial sweetener, no flavorings) outside that window.

6.  If you can manage that, try skipping one whole day of eating.  I.e., you eat your dinner meal one day, skip the next day, then eat your lunch (or whatever) meal the day after that.  If you can manage that, try it once in a while.  A couple times a year, once a quarter, once a month or whatever.  If adventurous, you can try skipping 2 days and see how it goes.

That's sort of the path my wife and I took into it.  Now, for us, intermittent fasting is super easy.  For my wife, it has been super effective -- and easy.

On top of that, there are all sorts of other things we did:
-- Exercise some.  Even a walk here and there is far better than nothing. Walk after meal is most beneficial.
-- Get some sunlight on your skin (i.e., walk outside, not on inside treadmill).
-- Eat your salad as 1st thing in a meal.  Helps in many ways.
-- Consume more vinegar (oil-and-vinegar salad dressing, or some folks make "posca" (old Roman drink) basically a table spoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water, and drink that at start of meal).  Helps with insulin response.
-- Take a multivitamin that gives you folate, B-12, vitamin D, etc.  Won't hurt you and helps if you don't get enough of those things.
-- Fish oil supplement (but I think only the stuff in bottles is the thing to take, as I don't trust oil in capsules not to be oxidized).

Good luck, my friend!  :aok

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #166 on: February 17, 2025, 03:06:49 PM »
Colonoscopy prep is a great way to "fast" too...

Lolz!  You can say that again.  I joke with my mom, "Hey, you got any of that delicious Golytley?  I could go for chugging down a gallon or so of that."

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #167 on: February 18, 2025, 08:36:16 AM »
The prep is the main reason I’ve avoided getting mine. I can imagine when trying to clean out with many visits to ‘pay the rent’ , so to speak, doing ‘paperwork’ would feel like I’m sanding some wood.  Hemi and Roidy would start bleeding. TMI!!
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #168 on: February 18, 2025, 08:37:40 AM »
I think it varies person to person.  I would suggest reading "Fast, feast, repeat", by Stephens, for suggestions on how work your way into intermittent fasting.

I think it is possible to work into it.

For example, lots of people are having carbs every 2 hours during all waking hours:  breakfast, snack, snack, lunch, snack, snack, dinner, snack, snack, bed.  And drinking something with sugar all throughout the day.  And getting out of that can be done gradually instead of all at once.

For me, when I look back on it, I went through these steps:

1.  Cut out ALL sugary beverages and ALL artificially sweetened beverages.  No soda, no fruit juice, no energy drinks, no diet Coke, no flavored coffee, no herbal or flavored teas, no vanilla flavor added, no squeeze of lemon, no sprinkle of cinnamon -- none of that.  Drink water, black tea, green tea, black coffee ONLY. Do just that change for a couple of weeks to get used to it.  It took me 2 weeks until I wasn't craving sugary beverages.  It was eye opening to me how that worked.

Just get past that first, then:

2.  Cut out all snacking between meals.

3.  In your meals, reduce sugar and carbs some.  Increase meat, eggs, animal fat, and good plant oils (olive, coconut, avocado, and/or palm), green vegetables.  Don't have to go cold turkey, and go to nothing but meat and greens.  That could be too hard and cause you to quit rather than just modify to a level you are OK with and succeed.

Get used to that, and then:

4.  Try moving the meals you eat closer together in time.  Have the window in which you are eating be 10 hours instead of 12.  Or 8 hours instead of 10.  Do not eat any calories or any flavorings or any artificial sweeteners outside that eating window.  No flavored beverages (like herbal tea or flavored coffee).  Outside your eating window, it's ONLY water, black tea, green tea, and black coffee.

5.  Once able to move eating window to be 6-8 hours, try once in a while (once a week, or whatever) a day where you eat only one big meal that day.  Again, nothing other than water, tea, coffee (no sugar, no artificial sweetener, no flavorings) outside that window.

6.  If you can manage that, try skipping one whole day of eating.  I.e., you eat your dinner meal one day, skip the next day, then eat your lunch (or whatever) meal the day after that.  If you can manage that, try it once in a while.  A couple times a year, once a quarter, once a month or whatever.  If adventurous, you can try skipping 2 days and see how it goes.

That's sort of the path my wife and I took into it.  Now, for us, intermittent fasting is super easy.  For my wife, it has been super effective -- and easy.

On top of that, there are all sorts of other things we did:
-- Exercise some.  Even a walk here and there is far better than nothing. Walk after meal is most beneficial.
-- Get some sunlight on your skin (i.e., walk outside, not on inside treadmill).
-- Eat your salad as 1st thing in a meal.  Helps in many ways.
-- Consume more vinegar (oil-and-vinegar salad dressing, or some folks make "posca" (old Roman drink) basically a table spoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water, and drink that at start of meal).  Helps with insulin response.
-- Take a multivitamin that gives you folate, B-12, vitamin D, etc.  Won't hurt you and helps if you don't get enough of those things.
-- Fish oil supplement (but I think only the stuff in bottles is the thing to take, as I don't trust oil in capsules not to be oxidized).

Good luck, my friend!  :aok

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #169 on: February 18, 2025, 08:41:58 AM »
Colonoscopy prep is a great way to "fast" too...

A nasty diarrhea does the same. Lost 4 lbs in two days last week. And the fever tremors took care of excersizing. Win-win...

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #170 on: February 18, 2025, 08:17:52 PM »
I once lost 80 lbs by making my own meals and sitting on the sofa drinking beer.  i crap you not.


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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #171 on: February 19, 2025, 12:57:33 AM »
I once lost 80 lbs by making my own meals and sitting on the sofa drinking beer.  i crap you not.


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I think the benefit of making decent food is so great that just doing that is of huge benefit.

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #172 on: February 19, 2025, 01:20:17 AM »
I think the benefit of making decent food is so great that just doing that is of huge benefit.
Tru dat!

Eating is my primary livelihood so why should I torture the closest stomach to me with poor food?

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #173 on: February 19, 2025, 08:40:45 AM »
Really, it is simple and no need for science...stick to God made food - eat for nutrition not satiation (eat in moderation), you're good.

Do 20 mins of walking a day, some pushup, squat...to your ability, some kinda physical exercise. That's it! For maintenance anyway.
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #174 on: February 20, 2025, 06:13:42 PM »
My advice to those who crave carbs is fix yourself a hamburger patty or a couple of eggs fried in butter. Then wait a bit. You will not get fat from animal fat. You will from carbs.

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #175 on: February 21, 2025, 01:58:09 AM »
Reducing inflammation goes hand in hand with proper nutrition. Sugar is inflammatory. Omitting sugar from your diet will more than likely stop snoring and probably within a week. If you smoke that is an inflammatory as well. It takes six months after quitting for the inflammation to go away. I imagine it's the same for anything you smoke. Side note, it takes 3 years for the inflammation caused by seed oils to go away.

Plants in general don't like to be eaten. Caffeine is a bug repellant. Some veggies have Oxalates. Those are tiny shard like particles used by the plants to fight off pests. They will cut the inside of a bug's mouth. When eaten by humans they may combine with calcium and form kidney stones.

You may want to look up Carnivor Teacher. He's doing a series on plant toxins.

I'm with several others here on the thread. Use the diet that best works for you.

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #176 on: February 21, 2025, 05:43:03 AM »
Don’t eat only one meal a day.   

It causes the body to go into “calorie storage mode.

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #177 on: February 21, 2025, 08:59:06 AM »
Don’t eat only one meal a day.   

It causes the body to go into “calorie storage mode.
But but but... That's so cost effective!

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #178 on: February 21, 2025, 01:06:35 PM »
Don’t eat only one meal a day.   

It causes the body to go into “calorie storage mode.

You dont do it every day.  And you dont eat less.  Going into low metabolism happens if you calorie restrict.  Not doing that is one part of why intermittent fasting works.

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #179 on: February 21, 2025, 01:22:41 PM »
The prep is the main reason I’ve avoided getting mine. I can imagine when trying to clean out with many visits to ‘pay the rent’ , so to speak, doing ‘paperwork’ would feel like I’m sanding some wood.  Hemi and Roidy would start bleeding. TMI!!

The prep is not as nasty as it sounds..

Clear liquid diet followed by mega laxative doses ... it's just water by then, alot of water but no pain with hemroid in my experience...

Best part is the nap one gets from  the propofol ... Best sleep ever..is why MJ had it administered until it killed him...

Go get one done if you're due or at risk...could be a life saver

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