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Offline Eagler

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What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« on: February 05, 2025, 06:34:25 PM »
Prices crazy if you can find one..

Is it the stupid crazy crypto prices turning everyone into miners again?

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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2025, 08:10:38 PM »
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2025, 08:29:51 PM »
they are not made in the USA.
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2025, 07:30:11 AM »
Shouldn't the 5000 series be out now?

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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2025, 08:04:21 AM »
If by out you mean sold out and scalped, then yes.
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2025, 12:47:11 PM »
To me crypto currency is nothing more than a get rich quick scam involving using video cards to conger up pretend money out of thin air
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2025, 06:31:12 PM »
The 5070 which is supposed to be available this month for $579 I think is touted by Nvidia as being as fast as a 4090. We'll see. Of course I wouldn't expect to get one at the initial MSRP for months or years.
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2025, 06:39:49 PM »
Graphics-card prices are insane right now.  Including 4000 series.  Including parts even of 3000 series.

Like $1300 for a 4070 Ti Super.  That is laughable.  I would refuse to buy at those levels just out of moral outrage.  :aok

Graphics-card pricing has been insane for many periods during the past 5 years or so.  Covid broke the world's competency and supply lines.

Helped by Bitcoin mining insanity, then maybe a bunch of folks thinking they want cards to run AI, so way overpaying for stuff they probably won't use.  Or gaming folks who are OK way overpaying.  Or a speculative bubble of scalpers buying up all supply.

It's nuts.
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2025, 07:45:27 AM »
Thought paying $829 back in August for my 4070 ti super was crazy...

Tariffs not affecting prices or availability?

Heard 16GB of vram is needed to push a local copy of the China ai, that and insane value of crypto has dried up inventory it seems

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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2025, 08:18:07 AM »
Quote from: Eagler on February 09, 2025, 07:45:27 AM
Thought paying $829 back in August for my 4070 ti super was crazy...

Tariffs not affecting prices or availability?

Heard 16GB of vram is needed to push a local copy of the China ai, that and insane value of crypto has dried up inventory it seems

Eagler

Maybe Nvidia is artificially keeping the supply of 5000 series cards low in order to dry up the remaining 4000 series cards out there and force everyone into the 5000 series when they are gone. This theory along with the crypto crap and general FOMO and hype Nvidia has cultivated the last 5 years is really frustrating. I finally talked my buddy into a gaming PC to play AH and other games we Mac guys can't play but finding something capable is getting cost prohibitive-especially for the high end, popular crap games he wants to play besides AH.
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2025, 01:45:12 PM »
Quote from: Eagler on February 09, 2025, 07:45:27 AM
Tariffs not affecting prices or availability?

Tariffs are 10% and are part of it.  But gpu prices are up way more than that.

I think it's limited supply plus fomo, ai, bitcoin, vr, games in general, and a customer base that seemingly is OK buying graphics cards for $1500+.
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2025, 11:28:00 AM »
Quote from: AKIron on February 06, 2025, 06:31:12 PM
The 5070 which is supposed to be available this month for $579 I think is touted by Nvidia as being as fast as a 4090. We'll see. Of course I wouldn't expect to get one at the initial MSRP for months or years.

Benchmark test is showing that the RTX4090 can outperform the RTX5080 (And even the 5090 in a few cases) so I don't think the 5070 is going to beet the 4090 unless Nvidia really works out the bugs. However the 50x0 serries cards are not showing very good gen on gen performance gains and Nvidia is trying to fool every one with frame generation.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-review

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-review

Quote from: xanax on February 09, 2025, 08:18:07 AM
Maybe Nvidia is artificially keeping the supply of 5000 series cards low in order to dry up the remaining 4000 series cards out there and force everyone into the 5000 series when they are gone. This theory along with the crypto crap and general FOMO and hype Nvidia has cultivated the last 5 years is really frustrating. I finally talked my buddy into a gaming PC to play AH and other games we Mac guys can't play but finding something capable is getting cost prohibitive-especially for the high end, popular crap games he wants to play besides AH.

Nvidia has been burned on last gen cards competing with current gen cards (20x0 geting passed over for 10x0 cards). Nvidia has also been known to deliberately hobble production to artificially inflate prices. Nvidia did it with the 30X0 and 40X0 gen cards.

https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/nvidia-halts-ampere-production-to-keep-pricing-high
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2025, 12:17:20 PM »
Apparently Nvidia was less than truthful about the performance of their new gen cards. They'll still sell all they can make.

I'll save my allowance and buy one eventually.
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2025, 01:52:37 PM »
We're building a new machine for my brother next week. He's moving the 4090 over from the old and putting the orig 3070 back in it. Oughta be a screamer. Ryzen 7 9800X3D, gen5 ssd, fast memory. Hope he can handle that and not get hurt. ;)
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Re: What happened to the 4000 series vcards?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2025, 03:32:41 PM »
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