This is not normal... or is it?

[Animl-AW]

I'm afraid this also makes players on the receiving end logging off.
This has EW arena vibes all over again. You log in, see yourself facing a mini horde stomping all over your bases. If you try to defend, you are quickly overwhelmed or (which is even worse) they spread out and prep several bases at once, striking where you are not. I guess the only good thing is cross county direct messaging being disabled these days, for I remember these guys going ballistic if you actually foil their attack once in a while, or they start gloating about their success...

But alas, I have no real fix for that. It's basically a number's problem, the lower the overall population, the more extreme the imbalance can get.

Their fault playing at the wrong time! Everybody should play at US prime time only, no matter where they live or what their schedule is 
(For the record, 30 players like in the picture above means Euro late afternoon/early evening these days)

This^^^

[Randy1]

I have suggested in the past to use the weather to counterbalance terrible splits between countries.   Using clouds to created low visibility to slow the almost everyday map win in the early morning EST..  Not perfect but a possible option.  Weather control might help with bulging ENY problems when country size are way out of balance.

During prime time, when two countries attack the third it can be exciting for sure.  However, when that happens, and the country being hit has a high eny that kind of sucks.  A fix on that eny problem would help.

When AKs  as an example have a squad night that can throughout the balance really bad.   Not much you can do or want to do in this case because they bring a nice dynamic shift in the country battles. A bunch of good players too boot.

[JimmyD3]

I have suggested in the past to use the weather to counterbalance terrible splits between countries.   Using clouds to created low visibility to slow the almost everyday map win in the early morning EST..  Not perfect but a possible option.  Weather control might help with bulging ENY problems when country size are way out of balance.

During prime time, when two countries attack the third it can be exciting for sure.  However, when that happens, and the country being hit has a high eny that kind of sucks.  A fix on that eny problem would help.

When AKs  as an example have a squad night that can throughout the balance really bad.   Not much you can do or want to do in this case because they bring a nice dynamic shift in the country battles. A bunch of good players too boot.

Changing the weather dynamically in game is not possible, beyond the original setup.

[Lazerr]

The weird thing is, this gangbang happens in the morning, and then again at primetime, except this time the two larger countries pile the 3rd with low numbers.

Kind of seems like the normal is the path of least resistance.  It shows when you get 2 or 3 of these guys out of their mobs.

I've accepted it, I do quite well in it.  Don't expect that from other players though.

[Dadtallica]

Their fault playing at the wrong time! Everybody should play at US prime time only, no matter where they live or what their schedule is 
(For the record, 30 players like in the picture above means Euro late afternoon/early evening these days)

I was referring to the OP

[Busher]

Yes, it is normal for AH -- has been for a couple of years.  I'd guess that anything done to force a change would just result in the horde logging off or quitting the game.

Been debating whether to stay. Hope HT isn't considering a price increase. With everything else, that would crater it for me.

[Animl-AW]

I get both ends of the spectrum. Yes it is fun to organize and work together for a goal but you are right. If forced to even up numbers would drive players to a tizzy.

What frustrates me is that this a player choice, not a game setup choice and this is how the players choose to play. We can figure that it would wear off if there was NO competition but it seems that is the actual goal.

Numbers are the center point to most game play complaints. Below critical mass (about 100-120) the game can devolve to dweebery. Playing at these times, and expecting the game as designed, your mileage will vary. You go in knowing what to expect.
Its no different than 30 yrs ago in AW. Mornings were a bit dweeby, prime time was more serious.

The game starts rocking once passing 110.

[Shane]

I was referring to the OP

Seems I always find you on my ankle all the time. 

[hazmatt]

Been debating whether to stay. Hope HT isn't considering a price increase. With everything else, that would crater it for me.

Well he doesn't seem to be considering a FTP option so I'm not sure numbers are the priority.

Obviously he can make the same money with 100 players paying $150 a month as 1000 players paying $15 a month. Either way its, $15,000 a month. I guess it all comes down to how he sees the numbers.

[Eagler]

Isn't that why we have the 262?

Eagler

[Lusche]

Isn't that why we have the 262?

Eagler

The 262 is pretty much useless for such a low numbers battle.  Attackers come in with tanks, m3s, bombers and jabos. Attacks are swift and rarely prolonged battles for a field. You usually have to up the jet from another field, get up to speed and head over - it may be too late by that time, and if not, you will have a hard time hunting the m3s. You may get the bombers, but tanks will also hit the town, or they just will hit another place.
The Me 262 is good for being a part of a large, combined arms conflict with lots of bombers in the air, but also members on your team doing the other stuff.

Battles are shaped by numbers. Remember how much more porking there was back in the day? Not just ammo, but also of barracks? Even during prime time that hardly happened any more in the past few years, too often an outnumbered side is barely holding the base and can't spare a few pilots for hitting the strats and porking several fields across a frontline in a coordinated fashion.

[LCADolby]

Snailman is spot on, and the larger the front the more and more useless the 262 becomes.
I played whack-a-mole with the base takers in the 262 last tour trying to help defend bases.
The best a 262 can hope is to delay the opposition via preventing buffs from wiping out buildings in 1 pass, giving friendlies that little bit more time to scramble.

[Lazerr]

Snailman is spot on, and the larger the front the more and more useless the 262 becomes.
I played whack-a-mole with the base takers in the 262 last tour trying to help defend bases.
The best a 262 can hope is to delay the opposition via preventing buffs from wiping out buildings in 1 pass, giving friendlies that little bit more time to scramble.

100% accurate.  The same people that fly in that mob to avoid any type of defense will just run to the bushes as the next resort.

[Animl-AW]

100% accurate.  The same people that fly in that mob to avoid any type of defense will just run to the bushes as the next resort.

Like I said on first return, the game isn't ruining the game, the players will. Even the ones who complain I see doing what they complained about. Nothing innocent here.... movin along....~~~~~>

[AKIron]

Who cares if there are only 20 players to oppose. Fifteen bucks a month is nothing. It won't even buy you half a tank of gas or enough eggs for breakfast.