This is not normal... or is it?

[Animl-AW]

No matter which side is the target. What I’ve recently seen at prime time is a buzz-kill. Lets stop barking about mornings.

You have 47 Rooks (entire country) in one horde pounding down 12 knits and 34 Bish (entire country) in one horde beating down 7 Knits.

<blank stare>

What do you get out of that? Certainly isn’t any good fights happening, its all gang bangs. Then I watch players log because of it, and I was one. Some logging in see that snd think “ why bother”.

Thats not just a squad night, the whole country is not in one squad. It’s a group mentality.

I don’t like it when Knits do it, but several of us will try to start fights elsewhere. The maps are 1024 sq miles.

Great thumping, probably fun for some, “8 ft tall and bullet proof”, bad for arena numbers.

Some say “it’s been happening for years”. Ok, prolly right, ya have also been losing players for the same years, blaming everything but that. This setting, that setting, HT this HT that, graphics,….nonsense.

“Everyone gets their turn” that just excuses it.  That just says “ya, umm we’re not going to even attempt to change that”. You are the masses you talk about.

My useless rant <shrug>

“They” is you.

[Shane]

No matter which side is the target. What I’ve recently seen at prime time is a buzz-kill. Lets stop barking about mornings.

<blank stare>

What do you get out of that? Certainly isn’t any good fights happening, its all gang bangs. Then I watch players log because of it, and I was one. Some logging in see that snd think “ why bother”.

Thats not just a squad night, the whole country is not in one squad. It’s a group mentality.

I don’t like it when Knits do it, but several of us will try to start fights elsewhere. The maps are 1024 sq miles.


“Everyone gets their turn” that just excuses it.  That just says “ya, umm we’re not going to even attempt to change that”. You are the masses you talk about.

I don't like or engage in it either and call it out. 

You're finally seeing how morning gameplay affects the entire day.   

[DmonSlyr]

Problem last night was knits just needed 2 bases to win. Then all the sudden #s started picking up and Bish were on the attack to take back their 75% bases. Rooks had to stop knits for the win so it made sense for them to fight back. But yeah, with no knit defense it made it very tough. You fly 15 min to get alt to a field and come across 10 18 -20k 190Ds all trying to run you down. Just really tough to want to keep taking off after a couple of sorties.

[icepac]

Sounds like fights are easy to find...........Rejoice.

[Animl-AW]

Sounds like fights are easy to find...........Rejoice.

I get the base captures go back and forth.

I look at it this way. Between two country 35+ hordes, 2 other battles were wasted.
Its not finding a fight its finding gang-bangs.

So the choice is
1) fight a horde severely outnumbered.
2) fight a different horde severely outnumbered
3) log off do something else.

And even with those numbers its 20k and HO everything. When I’m going straight at sn angke merge and they make a conscience move to pull into my nose, thats not me, and its not chance. Its what they do, followed by excusing it away. I csn name 5 who all I ever see is their nose. Why they fly with nose cannons, purely to HO. Soon as I see. Mossue or typh, 98% he’s pulling into a HO.” Well you were in my sights…” <eye roll> look, its dweebery. 90% of their kills are HOs.  And ya do it at 5 or 7-1 odds? Go play Candy Crush.

SO, before I logged I just started HOing every one of them. If they want to play dirty lets do it.
Every day is way past old and boring.

<shrug>

I chose curtain #3, I logged, I’m good

lol

[DmonSlyr]

I get the base captures go back and forth.

I look at it this way. Between two country 35+ hordes, 2 other battles were wasted.
Its not finding a fight its finding gang-bangs.

So the choice is
1) fight a horde severely outnumbered.
2) fight a different horde severely outnumbered
3) log off do something else.

And even with those numbers its 20k and HO everything. When I’m going straight at sn angke merge and they make a conscience move to pull into my nose, thats not me, and its not chance. Its what they do, followed by excusing it away. I csn name 5 who all I ever see is their nose. Why they fly with nose cannons, purely to HO. Soon as I see. Mossue or typh, 98% he’s pulling into a HO.” Well you were in my sights…” <eye roll> look, its dweebery. 90% of their kills are HOs.  And ya do it at 5 or 7-1 odds? Go play Candy Crush.

SO, before I logged I just started HOing every one of them. If they want to play dirty lets do it.
Every day is way past old and boring.

<shrug>

I chose curtain #3, I logged, I’m good

lol

Back in the day, I use to go on what I call "HO rampages" where I'd grab a 190A8 and HO everything in sight. It's fun. A mossie coming right at you is extremely scary, probably one of the scariest to even cross infront of. Typhoons and NIKs as well with their 4 20mm, you are asking for it trying to HO them. Always try to do more to dodge HOs. I try to get the vertical advantage with my nose while they are trying to shoot me, which automatically gives me the advantage if they miss and try to turn back at me.   

[Animl-AW]

Back in the day, I use to go on what I call "HO rampages" where I'd grab a 190A8 and HO everything in sight. It's fun. A mossie coming right at you is extremely scary, probably one of the scariest to even cross infront of. Typhoons and NIKs as well with their 4 20mm, you are asking for it trying to HO them. Always try to do more to dodge HOs. I try to get the vertical advantage with my nose while they are trying to shoot me, which automatically gives me the advantage if they miss and try to turn back at me.

I have no problem avoiding them, if I choose to. I figure when they intentionally pull their nose into me when I'm just going straight... I'd just play just as dirty and start spraying 1500 out. It's not that I can't avoid them, it's the repugnant attitude some have to do it 100% of the time. Evidently not very creative flying.

Logged in tonight, same gangbang Knit night,... right back to every weekend now,... I don't want to ever hear one more whine about numbers. Carries zero validity with me with the fake concern stuff. I just logged off, FE.

[GOODBYE]

Rooks needed knight bases to win, they got the bases and won. You can log back in now for the new map

[Animl-AW]

Rooks needed knight bases to win, they got the bases and won. You can log back in now for the new map

Bish and Rook have a very weird pattern. They either fight each other, not fighting knits at all, or they both pile on knits. Its very weird. It all seems black or white, no gray. Yes the double team happens all around for sure. Everyone justifies it some way, which id fine. But this very distinct pattern is kinda puzzling. Knits either get monsoon or drought. I’ve questioned myself on this, maybe its just me. But the pattern is distinct, not imagination.

This is when dumping an HQ is perfectly acceptable.

Ok its a game and war goofy stuff happens. But when we drag new players into a cool game they should try, tackle the learning curve and then all they get is gangbang or HO, they’re gone. Thats not what they come for. With subs, aging graphics topped with a horde mentality, you’re all rowing upstream. How much harder can ya possibly make it?

We have these repeat convos and everyone thinks we’re talking about others, we’re not, they are we are the people we talk snout, not some ghost in a corner.

Numbers play a big roll in all if this, but we’re caught in a catch 22.
Its not just annoying to vets, its shoves new players out. There is no win for them to even get past the learning curves. Then we have some drunk monkeys berating them because they are not great.


As far as epidemic of HO players, as mentioned above,…ya fly 15 min to get alt and speed, looking for a good ACM fight, just to get there and get jumped with an HO from 5k higher. That guys time was wasted and he got no fight for his time, just to rinse and repeat. We have repeat offenders and when I see their typh, temp or mossie, I’ll unload my entire ammo load into their nose, because I’ve never seen their 6. Now I’m doing it making myself sick. Why I’m fir ed to fly nose canon AC.

If you have to fly 20k, HO, when you have a group or horde with you, you suck, no matter that your score says.

I’m nit spinning in circles frothing at the mouth with ratted hair screaming in foreign tongues, they are simply observations. If I can think about something you can bet in vegas 20 others thought it too. I have no fix for human nature, just hope.

It is what it is. <shrug>

[Eagler]

Seems the majority of complaints these days would be solved by going from 3 sides to 2...

Wouldn't that just be making a two sided map?

Or would the horde be so bent on "winning" they'd all jump on the same side to achieve it?

Eagler

[DmonSlyr]

It was very strange to me that rooks allowed nits to capture all 20% their fields within 2 hours last night with no attempt at defense at all. I don't think I've seen all 20% get taken that quickly. They were over there trying to get easy kills on Bish when  bish only had 70% of fields left. Head scratcher for sure.

[Randy1]

It was very strange to me that rooks allowed nits to capture all 20% their fields within 2 hours last night with no attempt at defense at all. I don't think I've seen all 20% get taken that quickly. They were over there trying to get easy kills on Bish when  bish only had 70% of fields left. Head scratcher for sure.

After we won the map the first thing we did was attack the knits.   Doggone near took the first base on the new map.  The peak Rook time starts falling off I think late evening.

[Animl-AW]

Seems the majority of complaints these days would be solved by going from 3 sides to 2...

Wouldn't that just be making a two sided map?

Or would the horde be so bent on "winning" they'd all jump on the same side to achieve it?

Eagler

Totally disagree. Settings are wack a mole.

[GOODBYE]

To say there was no defense is just a flat out lie lol. Three bases had towns prepped at the end, you tell me how a large defensive force is going to decide how and what bases to defend. Also, you forgot to mention the fact that one of the bases was completely shut down which makes it just a little bit difficult to defend. I can either yell at you guys from the tower to please stop or take the 7-10 minute flight to get over there from a different base.

This also goes back to the whole “avoiding the horde” topic that people jump on. If one side is rolling bases and destroying everything that shows up, why would someone bother upping if they know they can find a more “legit” fight somewhere else. Its pretty clear the vast majority of people in the game do not care about winning the war, they care about finding decent fights and not getting jumped.. as evidenced by every single complaint on 200 about “nice 2v1” or “nice pick” when wingman tactics are being utilized. If everyone could have little bubbles of 1v1s there would be more happiness… I wish there would be a dedicated arena to such a thing 

[DmonSlyr]

To say there was no defense is just a flat out lie lol. Three bases had towns prepped at the end, you tell me how a large defensive force is going to decide how and what bases to defend. Also, you forgot to mention the fact that one of the bases was completely shut down which makes it just a little bit difficult to defend. I can either yell at you guys from the tower to please stop or take the 7-10 minute flight to get over there from a different base.

This also goes back to the whole “avoiding the horde” topic that people jump on. If one side is rolling bases and destroying everything that shows up, why would someone bother upping if they know they can find a more “legit” fight somewhere else. Its pretty clear the vast majority of people in the game do not care about winning the war, they care about finding decent fights and not getting jumped.. as evidenced by every single complaint on 200 about “nice 2v1” or “nice pick” when wingman tactics are being utilized. If everyone could have little bubbles of 1v1s there would be more happiness… I wish there would be a dedicated arena to such a thing 

It's hard to get people to follow. But had yall had a big group of guys to roll from a back field who were all fighting bish for no reason, yall could have stopped it. Knits were able to take on both sides last night with little resistance. Yall allowed us to easily take 65 and 66, and then we had tankers and bombers on the entire rook front with hardly any resistance. I only came across maybe 1- 3 defenders. There was really no battle for the knights last night it was kinda slow for a fighters perspective. We could have had 2 large CV battles right off yalls field, but no one rolled and was 2 easy captures. Never know what you are going to get, but I thought the lack of major defense by the rooks was very surprising.

BTW, I'm totally with you on the ganging thing. Wish there was more respect for 1v1 opportunities instead everyone just trying to gang and double/triple team 1 lone guy every time. That certainly makes the game tougher for most players.