I think one can discuss the affects of policy civilly without going off the deep end picking sides..
I guess some can't..
Eagler
If you're in the same tribe, sure. Today is not yesterday, when we cared less.
Since I've been back you've tried these no less then 30-40 times and even start a new one right after the last one was locked.
Ever see a policy/political thread end well? They always start decent, they never end the same way, ever.
Policy itself sets sides. Cause and reactions of policy set sides, it all sets sides. You keep trying to normalize it in cloaking to slick wording. Cause and effect of a policy sets sides especially when erroneous information starts passing and the listener starts correcting them. Game over. Today both sides are NOT dealing with the same reality that can be discussed that way. Ya can't even agree on the reality. What worked 10 yrs ago can no longer work because of deep seated and hateful positions.
And no, 90% of the people cannot discuss these things and it not become political. This is why the old saying. Never discuss politics, income or sex in open circles, people walk away with changed opinions, not on the subject, on the speaker, ya lose friends. You're not going to beat human nature into your liking. <shrug> Civil went out the door when ya can't even agree on the same realities as a base point.
BTW, the dollar has lost value because of the current situation.